Semitic is a Language Group, Not a Racial or Ethnic Group
Semitic is a Language Group, Not a Racial or Ethnic Group
“06/27/03: One of the myths that has been perpetrated on the world is that only Jews are semites. This is totally inaccurate. Unfortunately, the ADL (the Anti-Defamation League) has made a fortune in donations and has conned most media networks and most people in the world into believing this untruth.
If one looks into the history of the word, “semite”, it has to do with a language group and no more. The semitic languages are, at least according to most linguistic experts, Amharic (spoken in Ethiopia and Eritrea, the lands once known as Abyssinia), Arabic (spoken in all the Arab countries and in many Muslim countries because it is the language of the Qur’an), Hebrew (spoken in Israel and by some Jews and others outside of Israel), Aramaic (spoken primarily by the Chaldeans of Iraq and by some Catholic and Maronite Christians in the world, at least in their church services if not in their homes or business) and Syriac (spoken by a few in various parts of Syria and in the Middle East). Incidentally, according to most linguists, Abraham, the father of the Jews and Arabs, spoke Aramaic, that was the language of the land at the time, not Hebrew.
To get back to facts about semites, Jews, language and genetics, let me go futher. The actual genetic Jews were born in the Middle East and are known as Sephardic Jews. These Jews did speak a semitic language, Hebrew , from their earliest incarnation, but also, some at the time of Christ, also spoke Aramaic, Arabic and Amharic because of their location in Jerusalem and other Middle Eastern cities such as what isnow Addis Abbabba, Cairo, Baghdad and Damascus. One rarely hears a Sephardic Jew yelling, ”anti-semite” because the know better and because he is aware of his own history within semitic language speaking lands.
Let me be clear about another important matter; I am not touting for people who are anti-Jewish or anti-Arab, or anti-any ethnic or racial group; those people who stereotype or attack others based on their race or ethnicity are dead wrong and should be condemned—so too should those who abuse labels and use them wrongly to stop others from being justifiably critical should also be condemned (and in this case, I am referring to the ADL and other groups of that sort who label people with impunity and carelessness, sometimes wrecking their careers, their reputations, their businesses and their lives!)
Thus, when a person from the ADL calls someone who is critical of Israel, Zionists or Zionism, an “anti-semite”, this is pure nonsense. The person speaking is simply critical of Israel or Zionism. Also, if a person speaks against an Arab, and as I pointed out, Arabs speak a semitic language, he may be anti-Arab, but he is not “anti-semitic.”. In both cases, the person may be anti-zionist or may be a racist and be anti-Jewish or anti-Arab, but the person is SIMPLY NOT ANTI-SEMITIC.”
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September 30th, 2006 at 4:32 pm
You go girl…
September 30th, 2006 at 4:43 pm
But one small comment about jews vs. zionsits. in one survey after another, the overwhelming majority of jews around the world support zionism. I know we would like to think it’s not true but non-zionist jews are a tiny minority. Jewish religious techings and radical interpertations of the Old Testement continue to fule jewish extremism, which is protected from criticism in the West. Read the teachings of the Old Testement:<br /><br />"50- On the plains of Moab by the Jordan across from Jericho the LORD said to Moses, 51 "Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘When you cross the Jordan into Canaan, 52 drive out all the inhabitants of the land before you. "<br /><br />As you can see, Israel is the fullfullment of Jewish teachings. You want to end violence and promore muti-ethnic and multi-religious tolerance in historic palestibe, Jews have to take a hard look at their religious teachings which for hundreds of years have tought that jews have rights that trumps others. Palestine is a case in point but not an exception, where today millions of non-jews rott in suqlid refugee camps while jews (or even quarter jews) who never in their lives have set foot in palestine and nither did any of their ancestors are allowed to love in Israel and buy property and live in land where non-jews have been expelled from. And the West, for whatever reasons, closes an eye and even encourages such behaviour with full diplomatic ties, trade, and arms sales. I guess to the West, Israel is the Ulterego, the last reminder of bygone eare of colonialism. <br />
September 30th, 2006 at 11:39 pm
In a literal sense you are of course right, semitic = a language group in the Middle East.<br /><br />But in practice the definition of the word has changed so that in every European-language dictionary or encyclopedia anti-semite = anti Jewish. <br /><br />To quote from the Wikipedia entry: <i> <a title="Semite" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semite">Semite</a> refers broadly to speakers of a language group which includes both <a title="Arab" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab">Arabs</a> and <a title="Jew" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jew">Jews</a>. However anti-Semitism is specifically in reference to Jews and many anti-Semites are pro-Arab. </i> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti_semite)<br /><br />Which obviously does NOT mean that being being pro Palestinian or Anti Zionist results in you being anti-semitic (Jewish)!<br /><br />Just that some far right groups take the very simple view that they will be for whoever is against the "Jews." <br /><br />Which is why for example German neo Nazis demonstrated in support of Mahmoud Ahmadinejad whenever Iran played in the recent World Cup. In their minds he was "anti-Jewish", so are they, (to them) that meant they were on the same side. <br />
October 1st, 2006 at 12:06 am
<span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-3505"><i> the overwhelming majority of jews around the world support zionism. </i><br /><br />That depends what you mean by ‘Zionism.’ If you mean the majority of European and American Jews support the West Bank settler movement, then I don’t think that holds true. <br /><br />If you mean, as I think you do, supporting Israel (in whatever borders) as a state, then there is no doubt at all that this is the case. It’s fair to say that in the modern world, 90% of Jews’ sense of Jewishness is bound up with the idea that Israel exists. <br /><br /></span></span><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-3505"><i> 50- On the plains of Moab by the Jordan across from Jericho the LORD said to Moses… </i><br /><br />The Bible and Torah say many things and a minority of Jews or Christians take it literally. I mean, the very same bible also includes instructions on sacrificing animals and keeping slaves. Good advice in 3000 BC, but maybe not so relevant now!<br /><br /></span></span><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-3505"><i> You want to end
violence and promore muti-ethnic and multi-religious tolerance in
historic palestibe, Jews have to take a hard look at their religious
teachings which for hundreds of years have tought that jews have rights
that trumps others. Palestine is a case in point but not an exception, </i><br /><br />That last sentence implies that Jews have been "oppressing" people elsewhere - where?<br /><br />Reading between the lines I think what you are saying is that the only possible solution is that the grandchildren of the 1948 refugees should be allowed to return to their grandparents’ homes? <br /><br />Polls have shown, the majority of Israelis would be prepared for a two state solution. But a return of the 1948 refugees (or their descendants)? They would prefer to go back to being in a state of war with the Arab world before they accept this. <br /><br />It will never happen. Which is why something like the Geneva Initiatve: http://www.geneva-accord.org is probably the only basis for an agreement<br /></span></span><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-3505"><br /><br /></span></span><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-3505" /></span>
October 1st, 2006 at 1:19 am
Dirk, I mean most jews supported the expulsion of non-jews and are opposed to the return of those expelled. that’s zionism.
October 1st, 2006 at 1:21 am
"<span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-3510"><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-3505">That last sentence implies that Jews have been "oppressing" people elsewhere - where?</span></span></span></span>"<br /><br />Where they have the upper hand, the jews have been oppressive. Most arab americans who have been targeted by the FBI have been first targetted by jewish groups such as ADL, ZOA, AIPAC. Creeps.<br />
October 1st, 2006 at 8:29 am
Tololy,<br /><br />The truth is that while Semitic is a language group, anti-semitism was a term coined exclusively to refer to hatred of Jews. You may not like the etymology of the word, and you may think the word is improperly used to label critics of Zionism, but that is its meaning and has been its meaning from the time of the term’s origin. It does not refer to, and has never referred to, hatred of Arabs or Assyrians or any other Semitic-speaking group.<br /><br />You may also think the word is improperly applied. While I cannot say there aren’t some people out there who are critical of Israel but don’t hate Jews, the number of times somebody who claims to be simply an anti-Zionist turns out to be a true antisemite, is quite remarkable.<br /><br /><i>The actual genetic Jews were born in the Middle East and are known as Sephardic Jews.</i><br /><br />Entirely incorrect. Genetic studies show that Ashkhenazic Jews also originated in the Middle East. Genetically, they cluster closely to both Mediterranean Sephardic Jews and to Persian Jews. If you are trying to grasp for the old "Askhenazic Jews are Khazar Turks" hypothesis proposed by Arthur Koestler, let me assure you that modern genetic studies clearly disprove this theory. Nice try, though.<br />
October 1st, 2006 at 9:53 am
It’s funny but I got a comment detailing the modern-day relationship between Jordan and Israel, in an attempt to prove a point (what is that point, only the person who posted the comment knows), and now I am dragged to the conclusion that I am trying to "grasp" for some old "hypothesis". Very interesting.
October 1st, 2006 at 11:04 am
<span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-3512"><i> Most arab americans who have
been targeted by the FBI have been first targetted by jewish groups
such as ADL, ZOA, AIPAC. </i><br /><br />Wow. The FBI following the lead of the ADL? It’s sad that otherwise intelligent (which, without knowing you Rum, I am sure you are) people in the Arab believe this sort of thing.<br /><br />No doubt: Jewish lobby groups are more together in the US and know how to play the system - as do a lot of other special interest groups of course.<br /><br />But maybe the problem with Arab Americans isn’t the power of the "Jews", it’s that they are poorly served by their community leaders. The Muslim community in the US is now more numerous than the Jewish community. So get organised. <br /><br />Especially since the system of splitting congressional seats into geographical districts favours minorities and lobbying groups who can pick off individual candidates. <br /><br />Sadly most efforts that I’ve seen coming from the Arab American community are wide off the mark and , to be honest, ill-suited to modern 30 second soundbites: For example a 20 min film I’ve seen doing the rounds on pro-Arab blogs where retired American officials talk about the Palestinians. <br /><br /></span></span>
October 1st, 2006 at 1:38 pm
<span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-3515"><span style="font-style: italic;">and now I am dragged to the conclusion that I am trying to "grasp" for some old "hypothesis".<span style="font-style: italic;"><span style="font-style: italic;" /></span><br style="font-style: italic;" /></span><br />Well then, perhaps you would like to explain what you meant by the Sephardic Jews being the "true Jews." What leads you to the conclusion that they are the "true Jews?" What is that supposed to mean?<br /></span></span>
October 1st, 2006 at 8:42 pm
I am not the writer of this article, I merely quoted it. For clarity, I am not interested in the pasage that details the originas of Jews, but to omit it could be considered a error so it remained. It’s simple, really, so let’s stick to the point.
October 1st, 2006 at 9:23 pm
"<span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-3516"><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-3512"> I am sure you are) people in the Arab believe this sort of thing</span></span></span></span>"<br /><br />Look whos talking, the people think every arab and muslim is out to get them so you have to get them first. fact is Israel perfected conspiricay theory. Then the neo-con US took to a new hight where a whole country, Iraq, was destroyed because of the clinical paranoia which say alqaeda and WMD lukrking in every baghdad ally, the outcome was horrific and the casuality list is still mounting. all of it because of some sick conspiricy theory. I think irsael and the US are sick paranoid countries who are a danger to themselvs and others.<br />
October 2nd, 2006 at 12:11 am
Sorry, Tololy. I didn’t notice you were just quoting another article. I should have been more careful.<br /><br />This guy is a crackpot. Sure enough, reading the rest of the article he mentions Arthur Koestler’s "The Thirteenth Tribe" which propounds the now discredited theory that Ashkhenazic Jews are the descendants of medieval Khazar Turks who converted to Judaism en masse. Modern genetics has demonstrated this theory to be completely bogus. The Khazars were certainly real, but Ashkhenazic Jews are not their descendants. He apparently didn’t trouble himself to investigate what the science actually says about Koestler’s theory. The theory is still kicked around by Arabs and white supremacists as "proof" that Ashkhenazic Jews, half of Israel’s population, have no legitimate right to live in Israel. It often accompanies such related drivel as "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" on pro-Palestinian and neo-Nazi sites.<br />
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:11 am
"<span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-3516"><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-3512">Jewish lobby groups are more together in the US and know how to play the system</span></span></span></span>"<br /><br />So the NRA can be a fair target for attacks from anyone, but no one dares criticise AIPAC, ZOA, or ADL. your use of euphimisims such as "play the system" is insluting to the intellegence of anyone who knows the truth. You are propably familira with the harvad study about the abuses of the jewish lobby. If not, have a link. Even the report was attack in an unfair manner. Fact is, jewish groups operate above the state and are immune. <br /><br />http://www.alternet.org/audits/34416/?comments=view&cID=104428&pID=103713<br /><br />even the authors of the report did not escape the nasty tactics of US jewish groups. they have been attacked and Harvard has been pressured. This reminds us of the genetic study conducted by the spanish professor that was also attacked in an unprecedented way. Creeps.<br />
October 2nd, 2006 at 2:32 am
http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?ItemID=9035<br /><br />This article is really interesting,<br />focuses on how" Anti-Semitism is misused…<br /><br />omar
October 2nd, 2006 at 7:14 am
Looks like my previous attempt was caught in the spam filter! I’ll try a simpler one :)<br /><br />The word "Semite" comes from Shemite (in English)<br /><br />Shem and Ham were the two sons of Noah.<br /><br />Shem’s sons were Aram (re: Aramaic language) , Asshur (Assyrians), Elam, and Arpachshad.<br /><br />Arpachshad founded the kingdom of Ur. He is most significant because of his descendant, Abraham - the progenitor of all three Abrahamic faiths, of course.<br /><br />Arpachshad is the ancestor of (true) arabs and hebrews. However, all descendents of Shem can and should be considered "semites" - by literal definition, no less. That’s not a linguistic usage. It’s an ethnic usage. Saying the word is only correctly used as to describe language is totally incorrect, because the languages are called "semitic" because semitic people spoke them!<br /><br />Canaan was one of the sons of Ham, by the way. If one believes the ancients scriptures (as all muslims do) and believes Palestinians are descendants of Canaan, the Palestinians are not Semitic. They are Hamitic.<br /><br />I’m kind of surprised the politically correct kind of abstraction is making it’s way into the arab world! <br /><br />
October 2nd, 2006 at 1:19 pm
According to Babylon dictionary:<br />
<div class="definition">Anti Semite:- person who is prejudiced against Jews, one who
discriminates against or persecutes Jews </div>Semite:- member of a group of peoples supposedly descended from the eldest son of Noah
(including the Jews, Arabs, Akkadians, and Phoenicians)<br /><br />By the way, what a great article! Now the anti-semites have to expand their circle of hatred to include Arabs as well as Jews into their hate circle…. How lovely :-D <br />