Comments on: 3arabi: mas2alet takseer

By: Craig

Craig — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:41:37 +0000

Cursing me with blessings again, Abu Sinan? :-O

By: Abu Sinan

Abu Sinan — Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:04:17 +0000

You know what Craig? You are my hero! When I grow up can I be just like you?

Happy Eid!

By: Craig

Craig — Wed, 18 Oct 2006 18:14:22 +0000

Abu Sinan, So you are what some of your ancestors were 3,000 years ago? You are what your ancestry makes you, Abu Sinan. That's the way it works. I think the German government will be a bit upset to know they are not really German Germans are "germanic" dude :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germanic_peoples Mixing germanic and celtic would just yield a germanic/keltic mix. Kind of like your kids are an arab/whatever-the-hell-you-are mix.   Wow, I never knew I was, as someone of modern German ancestry, really Celtic! WTF are you talking about? Germanic and Celtic are unrelated ethnicities. If you're of mixed ancestry, just say so. Nothing wrong with that. My half-brother has an Irish mother and an Anglo father. He's a Celtic/german mix. I guess I will have to go out and learn "Celtic" whatevery that is. Celts speak Gaelic. But yes, knock yourself out :) a member of the Semitic people of the Arabian Peninsula Palestinians are not semitic. They are hamitic. You clicked those wiki links I left for you, right? :P You can go back 5,000 years all you want to try and prove that Palestinians are really Arabic, as if what some of their forefathers did will somehow detract to their claim of the land of Palestine. Palestine/Israel was never inhabited by arabs. It was INVADED by arabs - about 1000 years ago. I'm not talking about land claims, you are. But since Palestinians aren't arab anyway, and that's not an ancestral homeland of arabs, the whole point is moot.   By the way Craig, you just shot yourself in the foot.  If you agree that modern Palestinians are the "Philistines" then that means you must also accept that they were there BEFORE the Israelites were.I didn't do anything, because I'm not making any argument about ancestral homelands, you are :) But... since you did... If YOU believe the Palestinians were the Philistines, then read "Exodus" in the Bible. God had Moses lead the Israelites south and across the Red Sea in order to AVOID the land of the Philistines. Which makes the land of the Philistines, Northern Sinai. Not Canaan, which is where the promised land was. The Canaanites were another people that Moses lead the Israelites against in war, once they got to the promised land. You're a remarkably ignorant man, Abu Sinan.

By: Abu Sinan

Abu Sinan — Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:58:32 +0000

By the way Craig, you just shot yourself in the foot. If you agree that modern Palestinians are the "Philistines" then that means you must also accept that they were there BEFORE the Israelites were.

We all know The Bible says that the Israelis displaced the "Philistines" from the Promised Land. So if this was true, that means the Palestinians/Philistines have an older and better claim to the land of Palestine.

Thanks for the admition Craig. I wish all supporters of Israel were so open to admit that the Palestinians were indeed there first.

By: Abu Sinan

Abu Sinan — Wed, 18 Oct 2006 15:44:02 +0000

Craig-"Palestinians are either an Aegean people (if you believe the Phillistines were invaders of Sinai and the Palestinians are their descendants) or they are Canaanites. Canaanites are Hamitic, not Semitic. There are two groups of ethnic arabs."   So you are what some of your ancestors were 3,000 years ago?  Wow, I never knew I was, as someone of modern German ancestry, really Celtic!  I guess I will have to go out and learn "Celtic" whatevery that is.  I think the German government will be a bit upset to know they are not really German, rather Celtic, mixed in with a bunch of Huns who conquered the area previously, as well as a whole mix of other people who moved through the area.   Hint for you Craig, Websters defines an Arab as: "1 a : a member of the Semitic people of the Arabian Peninsula b : a member of an Arabic-speaking people"   You can go back 5,000 years all you want to try and prove that Palestinians are really Arabic, as if what some of their forefathers did will somehow detract to their claim of the land of Palestine.   I hope you dont mind if I go by the Websters definition of what an Arab is, and not yours.   Interesting you quote Wiki, I think I will stick with the academic sources.   The Palestinian people are Arabic, as defined by Websters dictionary.  You can go back and talk about the roots of a people all you want, but that certainly doesnt subtract them from their current classification.  Palestinians are Arabs just as Germans are Germans, not Celts.   I do love your "pure Arab" talk though, it is so Adoplh Eichman!

By: Craig

Craig — Tue, 17 Oct 2006 22:21:34 +0000

Fresto, I actually think I had a better grasp of what you were saying in Arabic than in English. Sorry!

Just so you know, I base my opinions about ethnicty on anthropological data, which does include culture and history, but does not include language. As far as I’m concerned, language has nothing to do with ethnicty, not now and not in the past. If that were true, all native speakers of English would be considered the same ethnicty, which I think is an absurd idea on it’s face. Would you say that a 3rd or 4th generation arab in teh US who speaks English but not Arabic isn’t an arab, anymore? What would such a person’s ethnicty be? English? Because that’s the name of their native tongue? Sorry, these warm and fuzzy politically correct concepts leave my head spinning, especially when more than one of them is used at the same time :)