Comments on: Fisking http://tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/ Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:59:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=MU hourly 1 By: tommy http://tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/#comment-7478 tommy Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:05:23 +0000 http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/#comment-7478 Fisk deserves to be derided.  <a href="http://www.aijac.org.au/review/2006/31-3/biblio31-3.htm">The man's grasp of history is awful.</a> Fisk deserves to be derided.  <a href="http://www.aijac.org.au/review/2006/31-3/biblio31-3.htm">The man’s grasp of history is awful.</a>

]]> By: Craig http://tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/#comment-7475 Craig Wed, 05 Mar 2008 22:43:16 +0000 http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/#comment-7475 <blockquote>According to Craig anyone who does not agree with him is a terrorist or a satanist or an athiest.</blockquote> Why do you change the subject and make ad hominem attacks on me instead? This is what you did last time, and Tololy refused to publish my replies to you.</span></span><br /><br /><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-40601"><span style="font-style: italic;">Now he decrees that all Jordanian christians are not christians at all.<br /><br /></span>No, Jordanian Christians declared themselves to be non-Christians when they decided to support the Muslim government in it's persecution of other Christians. And also, when they called Baptists and other Protestants "illegitimate". The sin is theirs.<span style="font-style: italic;"><br /></span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">Some Evangelists have this tendency to demonize other faithes including other christian denominations.<br /><br /></span>Why do you say "Evangelists" when you mean Protestants? All Christians are "Evangelists". And it is you (and Jordanian Christians) who decided to demonize Baptists. <br /><br />I'm not a Baptist, by the way. But you should be VERY careful. You have no idea what you are messing with when you start calling Protestants "illegitimate". <br /></span></span><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-40601" /></span><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-40601"><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">Can’t blame those rags to riches fundraisers? because their book is the Torah&nbsp; not the bible? and will never believe the kiss (betrayal) of Judas?.<br /><br /></span>What is that supposed to mean?<br /><span style="font-style: italic;" /></span></span>

According to Craig anyone who does not agree with him is a terrorist or a satanist or an athiest.

Why do you change the subject and make ad hominem attacks on me instead? This is what you did last time, and Tololy refused to publish my replies to you.</span></span><br /><br /><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-40601"><span style="font-style: italic;">Now he decrees that all Jordanian christians are not
christians at all.<br /><br /></span>No, Jordanian Christians declared themselves to be non-Christians when they decided to support the Muslim government in it’s persecution of other Christians. And also, when they called Baptists and other Protestants "illegitimate". The sin is theirs.<span style="font-style: italic;"><br /></span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">Some Evangelists have this tendency to demonize
other faithes including other christian denominations.<br /><br /></span>Why do you say "Evangelists" when you mean Protestants? All Christians are "Evangelists". And it is you (and Jordanian Christians) who decided to demonize Baptists. <br /><br />I’m not a Baptist, by the way. But you should be VERY careful. You have no idea what you are messing with when you start calling Protestants "illegitimate". <br /></span></span><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-40601" /></span><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-40601"><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">Can’t blame
those rags to riches fundraisers? because their book is the Torah&nbsp; not
the bible? and will never believe the kiss (betrayal) of Judas?.<br /><br /></span>What is that supposed to mean?<br /><span style="font-style: italic;" /></span></span>

]]> By: A.Rehman http://tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/#comment-7469 A.Rehman Wed, 05 Mar 2008 21:36:41 +0000 http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/#comment-7469 According to Craig anyone who does not agree with him is a terrorist or a satanist or an athiest. Now he decrees that all Jordanian christians are not christians at all. Some Evangelists have this tendency to demonize other faithes including other christian denominations. Can't blame those rags to riches fundraisers? because their book is the Torah&nbsp; not the bible? and will never believe the kiss (betrayal) of Judas?. According to Craig anyone who does not agree with him is a terrorist or a satanist or an athiest. Now he decrees that all Jordanian christians are not christians at all. Some Evangelists have this tendency to demonize other faithes including other christian denominations. Can’t blame those rags to riches fundraisers? because their book is the Torah&nbsp; not the bible? and will never believe the kiss (betrayal) of Judas?.

]]> By: Craig http://tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/#comment-7470 Craig Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:39:18 +0000 http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/#comment-7470 What do you think about Farah's denial that there were any human righst abuses of Christians in Jordan, Tololy? Are you going to let a few hysterically defensive Jordanians control the conversation again? What do you think about Farah’s denial that there were any human righst abuses of Christians in Jordan, Tololy? Are you going to let a few hysterically defensive Jordanians control the conversation again?

]]> By: Craig http://tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/#comment-7471 Craig Wed, 05 Mar 2008 20:37:49 +0000 http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/#comment-7471 <span class="commentBody" style="font-style: italic;"><span id="comment-40585">Craig, spare us the melodrama please, Christians are not victimised <br /><br /></span></span><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-40585">You're quite wrong. Non-Jordanian Christians WERE victimized. They were DEPORTED. Without any advance warning and without having time to mkae any preparations.<br /><br /></span></span><span class="commentBody" style="font-style: italic;"><span id="comment-40585">and if we were, why&nbsp;on earth&nbsp;would we be okay with it?<br /><br /></span></span><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-40585">That is exactly the question I wanted answered. The answer seems to be that Jordanian Christians consider non-Jordanian Christians to be "illegitimate". Which means to me that Jordanian Christians are not Christian, at all.<br /><br /></span></span><span class="commentBody" style="font-style: italic;"><span id="comment-40585">get a life for the love of whoever the hell you believe in. <br /><br /></span></span><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-40585">Why is it that Jordanians who don't like it when other people criticize their repugnant behavior always insult their critics, Farah? Is that a cultural issue? <br /><br />You have a life. I suggest you do what you can to make amends to people you harm, so that it will not be diminished in quality in the future.<br /><br />PS_Is taht what you would tell teh Baptists who were deported from Jordan in tehir pajamas? "Get a life"? They probably thought they had a life in Jordan, don't you think? But then YOU destroyed it.<br /> </span></span><span class="commentBody" style="font-style: italic;"><span id="comment-40585" /></span><span class="commentBody" style="font-style: italic;"><span id="comment-40585" /></span><span class="commentBody" style="font-style: italic;"><span id="comment-40585" /></span> <span class="commentBody" style="font-style: italic;"><span id="comment-40585">Craig, spare us the melodrama please, Christians are not victimised <br /><br /></span></span><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-40585">You’re quite wrong. Non-Jordanian Christians WERE victimized. They were DEPORTED. Without any advance warning and without having time to mkae any preparations.<br /><br /></span></span><span class="commentBody" style="font-style: italic;"><span id="comment-40585">and if we were, why&nbsp;on earth&nbsp;would we be okay with it?<br /><br /></span></span><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-40585">That is exactly the question I wanted answered. The answer seems to be that Jordanian Christians consider non-Jordanian Christians to be "illegitimate". Which means to me that Jordanian Christians are not Christian, at all.<br /><br /></span></span><span class="commentBody" style="font-style: italic;"><span id="comment-40585">get a life for the love of whoever the hell you believe in.
<br /><br /></span></span><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-40585">Why is it that Jordanians who don’t like it when other people criticize their repugnant behavior always insult their critics, Farah? Is that a cultural issue? <br /><br />You have a life. I suggest you do what you can to make amends to people you harm, so that it will not be diminished in quality in the future.<br /><br />PS_Is taht what you would tell teh Baptists who were deported from Jordan in tehir pajamas? "Get a life"? They probably thought they had a life in Jordan, don’t you think? But then YOU destroyed it.<br /> </span></span><span class="commentBody" style="font-style: italic;"><span id="comment-40585" /></span><span class="commentBody" style="font-style: italic;"><span id="comment-40585" /></span><span class="commentBody" style="font-style: italic;"><span id="comment-40585" /></span>

]]> By: Farah http://tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/#comment-7477 Farah Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:33:22 +0000 http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/#comment-7477 Craig, spare us the melodrama please, Christians are not victimised and if we were, why&nbsp;on earth&nbsp;would we be okay with it? do you really have nothing to do than referring to everyone of terrorism or abuse of human rights?&nbsp; get a life for the love of whoever the hell you believe in.</p> Craig, spare us the melodrama please, Christians are not victimised and if we were, why&nbsp;on earth&nbsp;would we be okay with it? do you really have nothing to do than referring to everyone of terrorism or abuse of human rights?&nbsp; get a life for the love of whoever the hell you believe in.</p>

]]> By: hatem abunimeh http://tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/#comment-7476 hatem abunimeh Wed, 05 Mar 2008 13:34:52 +0000 http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/#comment-7476 Craig, <p></p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> <p>&nbsp;</p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’m religion neutral type of guy. In the scheme of things proselytizing is not well received in <country-region w:st="on">Jordan</country-region>, would you like for me to come to <state w:st="on"><place w:st="on">California</place></state> and try to convert you to Islam?! The same way you believe that Jesus will save you, Muslim believes that Muhammad will save them as well. Now having said that, are convinced about Muhammad? Do you really believe that he will save you? I’m sure you don’t and so is the Muslim believers, they aren’t going to succumb to fancy proselytizing schemes, even the neophyte, if there are any, have a tendency to retract, so why bother in the first place. To suggest that the Christians are victimized in <country-region w:st="on"><place w:st="on">Jordan</place></country-region> is wrong. <p></p></span></p> Craig,
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’m religion neutral type of guy. In the scheme of things proselytizing is not well received in <country-region w:st="on">Jordan</country-region>, would you like for me to come to <state w:st="on"><place w:st="on">California</place></state> and try to convert you to Islam?! The same way you believe that Jesus will save you, Muslim believes that Muhammad will save them as well. Now having said that, are convinced about Muhammad? Do you really believe that he will save you? I’m sure you don’t and so is the Muslim believers, they aren’t going to succumb to fancy proselytizing schemes, even the neophyte, if there are any, have a tendency to retract, so why bother in the first place. To suggest that the Christians are victimized in <country-region w:st="on"><place w:st="on">Jordan</place></country-region> is wrong.
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]]> By: Craig http://tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/#comment-7472 Craig Wed, 05 Mar 2008 11:00:16 +0000 http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/#comment-7472 I'm thinking of your blog now, and the way that discussion of Jordan's persecution of Christians was stage-managed by a few Jordanian commenters. I'm really unhappy about that. From now until the day I die, I will always think of Jordan as the country where Christians get victimized, with the full support of Jordanians - including, unfortunately, Jordanian Christians. I had thought you were a human rights activist, Tololy.<br /> I’m thinking of your blog now, and the way that discussion of Jordan’s persecution of Christians was stage-managed by a few Jordanian commenters. I’m really unhappy about that. From now until the day I die, I will always think of Jordan as the country where Christians get victimized, with the full support of Jordanians - including, unfortunately, Jordanian Christians. I had thought you were a human rights activist, Tololy.<br />

]]> By: Craig http://tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/#comment-7473 Craig Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:57:22 +0000 http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/#comment-7473 By the way, what is it called when Arabs do the same thing? By the way, what is it called when Arabs do the same thing?

]]> By: Craig http://tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/#comment-7474 Craig Wed, 05 Mar 2008 10:56:20 +0000 http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/05/fisking/#comment-7474 Where have you noticed that, Tololy? I wasn't aware you read American or Israeli blogs? I don't, myself... I'm just curious. Where have you noticed that, Tololy? I wasn’t aware you read American or Israeli blogs? I don’t, myself… I’m just curious.

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