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In Bits & pieces on March 5, 2008 at 12:36 pm

Reading about Robert Fisk in Wikipedia, I came across this:

Fisk’s ability to arouse the ire of political conservatives has led the blogosphere to spawn the term fisking. This refers “not to what Fisk does, but to what is done unto him” - the fisker begins by copying text from the fiskee, and then produces an interlinear critique pointing out flaws and raising doubts. Since the fiskee cannot respond, “the fisker can without too much trouble make the fiskee look ridiculous.” Neoconservative and pro-Israeli bloggers with names such as Fisking Central and The Fisk have been created specifically to follow Fisk’s every word. The original fiskee was of course Fisk himself, but even the Archbishop of Canterbury has been fisked.

I have definitely noticed how pro-war and pro-Israel and those ultraconservative activists have flooded the WWW with comments on blogs or newspaper articles or forums, and have intensified their activity in composing blog posts and other materials to flood the internet in support of their skewed ideals. This sort of flooding thrived during and right after the Israeli aggression on Lebanon in 2006, or the July War.

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Psywar.org:source of flyers and a detailed account of Israeli psyops in Lebanon during July 2006
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One of my obsessions is psychological warfare and human behavior. I even have a copy of The Manipulation of Human Behavior. It’s fascinating how propaganda has evolved from dropping flyers from airplanes and distorting radio transmission to include people-powered internet flooding. It’s sheer quantity overriding reason, and many times truth.

  1. Where have you noticed that, Tololy? I wasn’t aware you read American or Israeli blogs? I don’t, myself… I’m just curious.

  2. By the way, what is it called when Arabs do the same thing?

  3. I’m thinking of your blog now, and the way that discussion of Jordan’s persecution of Christians was stage-managed by a few Jordanian commenters. I’m really unhappy about that. From now until the day I die, I will always think of Jordan as the country where Christians get victimized, with the full support of Jordanians - including, unfortunately, Jordanian Christians. I had thought you were a human rights activist, Tololy.<br />

  4. Craig,
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    <p class="MsoNormal" style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">I’m religion neutral type of guy. In the scheme of things proselytizing is not well received in <country-region w:st="on">Jordan</country-region>, would you like for me to come to <state w:st="on"><place w:st="on">California</place></state> and try to convert you to Islam?! The same way you believe that Jesus will save you, Muslim believes that Muhammad will save them as well. Now having said that, are convinced about Muhammad? Do you really believe that he will save you? I’m sure you don’t and so is the Muslim believers, they aren’t going to succumb to fancy proselytizing schemes, even the neophyte, if there are any, have a tendency to retract, so why bother in the first place. To suggest that the Christians are victimized in <country-region w:st="on"><place w:st="on">Jordan</place></country-region> is wrong.
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  5. Craig, spare us the melodrama please, Christians are not victimised and if we were, why&nbsp;on earth&nbsp;would we be okay with it? do you really have nothing to do than referring to everyone of terrorism or abuse of human rights?&nbsp; get a life for the love of whoever the hell you believe in.</p>

  6. <span class="commentBody" style="font-style: italic;"><span id="comment-40585">Craig, spare us the melodrama please, Christians are not victimised <br /><br /></span></span><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-40585">You’re quite wrong. Non-Jordanian Christians WERE victimized. They were DEPORTED. Without any advance warning and without having time to mkae any preparations.<br /><br /></span></span><span class="commentBody" style="font-style: italic;"><span id="comment-40585">and if we were, why&nbsp;on earth&nbsp;would we be okay with it?<br /><br /></span></span><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-40585">That is exactly the question I wanted answered. The answer seems to be that Jordanian Christians consider non-Jordanian Christians to be "illegitimate". Which means to me that Jordanian Christians are not Christian, at all.<br /><br /></span></span><span class="commentBody" style="font-style: italic;"><span id="comment-40585">get a life for the love of whoever the hell you believe in.
    <br /><br /></span></span><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-40585">Why is it that Jordanians who don’t like it when other people criticize their repugnant behavior always insult their critics, Farah? Is that a cultural issue? <br /><br />You have a life. I suggest you do what you can to make amends to people you harm, so that it will not be diminished in quality in the future.<br /><br />PS_Is taht what you would tell teh Baptists who were deported from Jordan in tehir pajamas? "Get a life"? They probably thought they had a life in Jordan, don’t you think? But then YOU destroyed it.<br /> </span></span><span class="commentBody" style="font-style: italic;"><span id="comment-40585" /></span><span class="commentBody" style="font-style: italic;"><span id="comment-40585" /></span><span class="commentBody" style="font-style: italic;"><span id="comment-40585" /></span>

  7. What do you think about Farah’s denial that there were any human righst abuses of Christians in Jordan, Tololy? Are you going to let a few hysterically defensive Jordanians control the conversation again?

  8. According to Craig anyone who does not agree with him is a terrorist or a satanist or an athiest. Now he decrees that all Jordanian christians are not christians at all. Some Evangelists have this tendency to demonize other faithes including other christian denominations. Can’t blame those rags to riches fundraisers? because their book is the Torah&nbsp; not the bible? and will never believe the kiss (betrayal) of Judas?.

  9. According to Craig anyone who does not agree with him is a terrorist or a satanist or an athiest.

    Why do you change the subject and make ad hominem attacks on me instead? This is what you did last time, and Tololy refused to publish my replies to you.</span></span><br /><br /><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-40601"><span style="font-style: italic;">Now he decrees that all Jordanian christians are not
    christians at all.<br /><br /></span>No, Jordanian Christians declared themselves to be non-Christians when they decided to support the Muslim government in it’s persecution of other Christians. And also, when they called Baptists and other Protestants "illegitimate". The sin is theirs.<span style="font-style: italic;"><br /></span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">Some Evangelists have this tendency to demonize
    other faithes including other christian denominations.<br /><br /></span>Why do you say "Evangelists" when you mean Protestants? All Christians are "Evangelists". And it is you (and Jordanian Christians) who decided to demonize Baptists. <br /><br />I’m not a Baptist, by the way. But you should be VERY careful. You have no idea what you are messing with when you start calling Protestants "illegitimate". <br /></span></span><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-40601" /></span><span class="commentBody"><span id="comment-40601"><br /><span style="font-style: italic;">Can’t blame
    those rags to riches fundraisers? because their book is the Torah&nbsp; not
    the bible? and will never believe the kiss (betrayal) of Judas?.<br /><br /></span>What is that supposed to mean?<br /><span style="font-style: italic;" /></span></span>

  10. Fisk deserves to be derided.&nbsp; &lt;a href="http://www.aijac.org.au/review/2006/31-3/biblio31-3.htm"&gt;The man’s grasp of history is awful.&lt;/a&gt;

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