[Craig, we truly appreciate your taking time to give us your highly-respected and valuable insights to share with our 321gold readers]

I haven’t written anything for public consumption in a while, because I’ve been busy living in what I like to call, "the real world" and making my living by trading my own money. That’s what I do these days. I’m a fly on the wall with electronic access to the dens of thieves.If I come out on top then I transfer those digits for things I need.Yes I’m still long gold from $290, and crude from $60 but whatever, I’ve been doing ok. I’ve been doing ok that is, if the money I have was worth what it used to be, but it isn’t. So rather than just slap a label on what it is when words have already arguably lost their meaning, let’s discuss it.I am personally more concerned about quality of life issues than I am about money given the current circumstances.The last time when I wrote publicly, I was talking about the decline of the empire and the end of the pre eminence of the US dollar…war, that sort of thing.So that’s what’s going on now, what I was talking about then.The US is currently in what I like to call a period of "decay". It is in a period of decay in every possible way. If you live in the real world like I do, it is evident. If you consume a diet of the corporate media cheerleading squad, then you don’t live in the real world and it could be difficult for us to communicate during the rest of this essay. We’ve got people charged with cleaning up the corrupt broken system going out with an $80,000 hooker bill and being replaced by a blind man. The current El Presidente is a wind-up doll for a bunch that should all be in orange jumpsuits. It would be comical if it weren’t so sad to watch it all go down. It is a modern day tragedy being played out in real time in the context of a giant government/corporate media theatre production.It’s amazing to me how people who are into politics or religion or whatever will violently oppose some opinions, when people simply report the facts they see around them. Anyway, again… another subject. Politics and religion are both the same thing. They are both simply effective methods to control large masses of people. I just figured that one out not too long ago when I was into my learning the history of the world project. It has always been that way and always will be.So anyway, that’s all I do to make my living. I assimilate the facts I see around me and invest accordingly. I keep a diary of what I think and why, and I even publish it. If I’m right I make money and if I’m wrong I lose money. I like it that way. It keeps me honest.That’s one reason I don’t write a lot publicly these days. It is becoming increasingly difficult for people who live in the real world to communicate with those who don’t, and there is an increasing number of those who don’t just simply because most people believe what they are told and the lies they are being told are now monumental. Astronomical in size. That’s one of those universal rules about human beings; the majority will always go along with whatever you tell them. That’s just the way it always has been and always will be. All good propagandists know that.For those who do think for themselves and live in the real world however, everything that is happening today has been entirely predictable and even expected. I mean, the corporate media will say "no one ever saw this" or "they never saw that" and really the case is they just choose not to have those people appear. That’s a whole subject in itself however.I was noting to my subscribers the other evening that if you take a look at a picture of a pump price for gas from ten years ago until now, that’s around an 18% increase annualized every year for ten years. All the other prices in the real world have risen at commensurate levels like healthcare and all the big items people like me in the real world need to spend money on.Furthermore, if you plot energy in the last five years, the numbers are bigger. If you plot the last two the numbers are bigger yet. The last one, bigger yet. So what we have here in the real world are prices accelerating at an ever-increasing double-digit rate. Call that what you want. We have real wages basically constant and good jobs are harder to come by. We have a middle class that is going away. We have the majority of the citizens having their wealth, if they still have any, confiscated due to the ravages of inflation, or with toxic financial contact with the healthcare/pharma, legal or government money machines. So in the "not real world" big brother and his corporate media outlets wants you to believe that there really hasn’t been much inflation or any significant changes to the status quoand that lie is so big that you may even believe it.So if you do, then you don’t live in the real world and we cannot communicate effectively because what you think you know is the product of a corporate boardroom. What I know is the product of living.The other big thing that has happened since I last wrote is that the guys on Wall Street figured out how to loan a bunch of money to people that had no ability or even real desire to repay that money except for the fact that house prices were sure to go ever higher which is the definition of a mania. So working through a little bit of that math, with an estimated 30% of homeowners currently upside down on their mortgages, that works out to around ten trillion dollars of real estate still to be walked away from according to simple math and a few basic assumptions I worked out the other night.In the "not real world" they have told you from the outset that first there was no real estate bubble, then that there might have been one, then that it would be over quickly and now they aren’t sure when it will be over and the PR firms are busy working on what to tell you next.It’s not going to be over any time soon. The big question in my mind is whether the whole thing is about to go kaput or if we are just going to witness a continuous decay as the wealth shifts into a very small percentage of the population… as the middle class flames out. Again, that is a subject in itself. That is the subject of the Straussian nightmare; a change in the form of government that is pitched as the same thing as the old government.So on top of this Wall Street genius of loaning money to people who could not pay, you have the cure for all this mess being printing more money (creating more debt). So they’re going to fix a problem of too much debt by creating more debt. Perfect. They’re even monetizing it by taking nearly worthless debt for brand new money created with the push of a button and an organized media campaign to tell you what they did and why it was good and why it was not monetization or covert nationalization of the banking system. It is what it is, call it what you want.So the idea is that by pushing buttons you can cure these ills, but the reality is that big pile of new money is diluting the old money and sending the US dollar into the toilet. I mean, they’re pitching it as all good, and what’s left of the free markets are in sharp disagreement with the party line.Now; the only reason the USA has gotten away with the idea that this balance sheet was compatible with the idea of being the world’s reserve currency was that the USA was the global kingpin, the Mac daddy… until the empire did what all empires do and that’s get too big for their britches.Then they always start going off expanding the empire into places that are too expensive to maintain, imposing their will on people who don’t want their will imposed on, and then that all gets so expensive and they start making so many enemies they start going bankrupt. That’s what always happens. It always does. That’s probably another one of those human nature things.So in the real world right now, we have a situation where the banks are bankrupt, the government is bankrupt, the people are bankrupt, and the cure for this is to lower interest rates and create more money (debt) by pushing a button… diluting the value of the money further and causing everything we have going on now. It all makes sense here in the real world. All the pieces to the puzzle fit and none don’t.So is this stagflation or is this hyperinflation? Well, I’m not carrying a wheelbarrow around with my money in it yet, but I do know the prices and costs of everything I need to live are going up at an ever-increasing rate.
The shape of that curve is a polynomial consistent with ever accelerating inflation which some would call hyperinflation. I know that if I earn a 20% return, then I might be keeping up with the increase in the costs of everything I need to maintain my personal status quo. If you can balance a checkbook and multiply, then you know. If you are one of the ones who believe everything you’re told, then you have to not believe your lying eyes or not be able to balance a checkbook.When the cure for all problems can only be to lower interest rates and dilute the supply of the money by creating more money, then that is a vicious cycle consistent with acceleration or hyperinflation.I really don’t like it when people casually compare what is going on right now to 1929, because in 1929 the cure was basically to spend less and now the cure is basically to spend more. Even worse, being the geniuses we are, we figured out a way to amplify spending, called derivatives. They’re based on the real thing but amplifiedlike 100 times. So we’ve already been doing the "cure" for so long that maybe the patient is no longer responding?So what we are currently seeing, in both gold and crude oil is a loss of confidence. It’s a loss of confidence that this whole thing makes any sense.It’s a loss of confidence in the absurd idea that you can create wealth by pushing a button. Since this whole thing now relies solely on confidence and not any intrinsic value, commodities, especially gold and crude oil, are acting as alternative wealth storage devices to paper currency.If you have a bushel of corn, then you know what that is. You can eat it, or do a bunch of other stuff with it. With a piece of paper with a picture and official looking numbers on it, well you aren’t as sure as you were yesterday what you can do with that. There will be no run on the banks this time around, because the banks can always be refilled with ever more worthless money. Instead of a run on the banks, there will be a run on the dollar. A run on the dollar (or run into commodities) is the modern equivalent to a run on the banks back then, for the reasons I’ll get into shortly.So there is a loss of confidence roughly equal to people’s confidence in the government and the banking system. This decreased confidence is fueled by the fact that they are creating too much money. The idea with fiat money is that you only grow the amount of it as the total output of the economy increases otherwise you are diluting it. The thought experiment for that goes like this. You have one giant pile of stuff, and one giant pile of money. Right now there is enough money so that one-dollar gets one pound of stuff. Now, if you double the amount of that money, then it takes two dollars to equal one pound of that stuff. Unless the pound of stuff doubles in size, you have just caused 100% price inflation. So, operations like just zapping a half a trillion or so into existence out of thin air means just a bigger pile of money going after the same amount of stuff. So that’s what we have going on now. These are financial engineering acts of desperation to save a system by giving it more of what got it to this point in the first place… debt. So when regular people like me think about that, they think, that doesn’t make any sense, and they lose confidence.That’s in the real world. On TV things are still good though. So if you don’t like what you’re reading here, then go turn on the TV. You’ll feel better.I hate to simplify things too much, but this is the reason Mr. Greenspan called gold the conscience of the central bankers back in the 60’s before he lost his mind or whatever happened. Maybe he couldn’t resist the power of the ring or something… I don’t know. Anyway, it’s their conscience because they can’t just zap gold into existence with the stroke of a pen.Guess what? They can zap money into existence now. Poof - you’ve got money.Any amount you want. That’s why this is fundamentally different from the great depression. This time, they can just increase the giant pile of money. they can just drop it out of helicopters if they have to. They even said so… and it isn’t going to buy as much stuff. It doesn’t already.So you still have the same basic problem from a human standpoint. That’s the really interesting thing. In other words, whether you have a deflation like in the 30’s or an inflation like now, the people suffer similar effects. It’s hard to find a job, you can’t make ends meet, city and government functions and services are understaffed and underfunded, and you are hungry. They are both a state of decay. Both usually end in war too.The last one did. This one is different however in a lot of ways… and it’s much more serious. It is fundamentally different because it is the end of the world’s first experiment in government by the people and it has been replaced by something new.So if you’re into labels, then maybe you can find a label for what to call this. I like to quote Lenin on that:
"Fascism is capitalism in decay." -Vladimir Lenin
So I really don’t want to get into all that implies in a short essay, but I will condense it all and say the US is in a state of decay. Political, socioeconomic, leadership, influence, status, any label you can think of.The US is losing power and influence in the world, and it only has 5% of the world’s populationand they’re all bankrupt. I like to think of it like a continuum from the US coming out on top after WWII to a banana republic run by El Presidente. That’s what I call them now, whoever he or she is, El Presidente because that’s what they are. A corporate spokesman who is put there, bought and paid for by Acme corp.The country has lost its way and is increasingly operating at the whim of the corporate lobbyists and special interests that own the politicians as the stench of it all starts to smell so foul that even the corporate media disinformation campaign can’t convince your lying eyes. It is not what it appears to be. It is Rome circa 400’s. It has already bankrupted itself policing an unsustainably large global empire. You have to live through the decline.So that all gets into people living in the real world versus those who are not. Again, it’s safe to say that the world is voting with its dollars… and the 5% of the world’s population are going down hard on 95% leverage. They aren’t going to like it either.Tune in next time to hear which states secede first.Mar 14, 2008
Craig Harris
email: bcharris@gate.net

all im telling you, Prostestants from its begining from Luther and Henry to its various sub divisions is a political faith and its my opinion! a faith that wants to stretch to fit, so its sub divides and multiplies within itself to meet a demand, and when religion becomes political, it becomes human manipulative and a mean of control of people, we dont need poeple to tailor religion to their political desires, maybe part of you corrected Rome and Catholics but from what i see, it became a mess and extreme, a relative became a pentacostal and in no time he started saying that jews have the right for all Palestine, hating muslims and now he is sent on missions to China and the Gulf, why?? another became baptist and claims to speak tongues and became super sensitive to Eastern Church, do you think we are in times where we need missionaries and closing our minds to our faiths? a faith is something personal, its beautiful when its genuine, im not saying that all protestants are bad but some are, and some are very dangerous and i told you before we wont take any risks on security not with sects coming with big money here and Christians in Jordan have nothing to do with Politics, we are a minority and we have enough diversity, try to understand what outweights what if your aim is peace, dedicating funds for converting people and targeting the poor and changing people\’s faith and ending up with dead people is not right! in a muslim eye, he doesn\’t differentiate an eastern Church from Protestants or mormons or smiths or anything, its simply Christian, we have come a long way and living peacefully and we dont need a civil war if we give you a chance here, not in a country that already respects us and gives us our rights, we are still growing, anything a Christian need we would contact the Royal Court and they will listen to us, we dont need Chaos, Muslims need time to focus on reflecting their religion to give a chance for understanding to the world, converting leads to killing so not until religions understand each other till you ask from people to change.

my last note, if you were to practice true Christian you would not use the language you used with BamBam and A.Rehman and you should understand what i mean. our acts speaks for our religion, this is how we spread the word as Christians here, this is how we were taught to show the world we are Christians in the Eastern Church by being outstanding in our work and peaceful, i kept asking myself, why would you want to convert a Christian as you spoke in your previous comment, am i not a Christian already, are we not reading the same Bible ??

another note on commenting, A.Rehman is A.Rehman and not Ahriiman! i think any american would be offended if his name was mispelled and its written infront of you. so yeah these basic simple things matter.

about my source of information, i went and spoke to the head of the Latin Church. he was closely informed about the issue.

I’d still like to know who prepared that chart.

It’s American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS), and i did say that above with a link … do read please or just press the link

You do know that America is MORE Christian (and more religious) now than it was in 2001, do you not? September 11th, 2001 had that effect on Americans.

thats entirely an opinion, while i do recognize that the religious are getting more extreme (case in point) i also recognize that the secularist and people who don’t identify with religion are increasing… so statement is shaky

Do you admit to being wrong? This requires a yes or no answer. You’ve just proven YOURSELF wrong, and if you still won’t admit it, you are a hopeless case.

NOPE not at all, using my numbers, which are the same as his numbers and adding up the protestants you get 38% a far cry from 50%. and your objection about the numbers, satistically speaking you can’t take religious belief of a person that is not an adult. so the population of the US in 2001 that is above 18 is about 200 million that gives u the 24.5% ur screaming about, i was just pointing out that even ur population numbers are screwed and thought i’ll save u the humiliation of not even realizing that basic point in statistics of religion… but you asked for it.

Dude, “Lutheran” is it’s own denomination. There aren’t multiple versions of it. And it’s a very small denomination, these days.

yes i know, am just correcting you that you are stating the history of the lutherans (the first protestants) not those of angelicals. and now i have to correct you again that it is not, its a major protestant denominations which is the majority in terms of chrisitians in no less that 20 countries with a lot of denominations from it that are lutheran so you are the one that is trying to say who is protestant on who is wrong, i remind you again the USA is not a representative sample of the world by any measure. you claim the mormons and JW are heretics to Christianity don’t you ? how is it any different ?

a bit about proselytizing
in protestant the practice of individual conversion, was adopted by the resurrection of pietism views in the protestant denominations. it wasn’t always there in that form. so don’t go generalizing that all Christian denominations think of it the same way you do… for instance eastern orthodox are against converting non-christians into christians and see it limited to converting over christians… i warned you not to turn this into a religious argument but you went ahead and look where you stand now.

and don’t include britian(i guess u meant england) into protestant countries, neither the goverment(secular) nor the people( over 60% don’t ascribe to a religion from multiple statistics) would appreciate an american saying that about them :D

ENJOY!

I went and asked and verified why the foreign christians were deported, and the reason is because they converted 17 muslim families and baptized them in jordan river.

OK. That’s illegal in Jordan, right? It’s still a human rights violation on a basis of “Freedom of Religion”, but I’m sure that won’t be changing any time soon. Do you have a link for that info? Because I’ve heard they were deported in the dead of night, no reason given.

and those who were deported didn\’t belong to 1 sect or 2, they belonged to 46 different christian religious parties and sects that are under the umbrella of protestants who have intentions to tear our stability to pieces like that of Lebanon

This doesn’t make much sense. Why on earth would people of 46 different Protestant faiths be required to convert 17 families? Does that make sense to you?

yet protestants have remaining 23 religious sects allowed in Jordan and have been in the middle east since 1845 and the biggest example is the American Univesity of Beirut which was the American Protestant University and dropped protestant later on and the Bishop School in Amman which is also protestant!

I have heard that the Christians deported from Jordan were Baptists. Baptists are the largest denomination of Protestants, worldwide. They aren’t an obscure bunch. There are about 110 million baptists.

It makes sense that any religiously funded or founded institutions opened by Americans in the ME would be Protestant. We are a Protestant country, despite what some of these misinformed people are saying :)

when Protestants are being Deproted you become one, when my National Security Becomes under threat Christians and Muslims here become ONE!

That’s up to you. It seems to me that Jordanian Christians became “one” with Jordanian Muslims when they accused Protestants of being “illegitimate”. I wonder if Jordanian Muslims would do the same for you Jordanian Christians, if things get ugly there. Iraqi Muslims have been treating Iraqi Christians terribly, and we all know about the problems between Christians and Muslims in Lebanon. Hopefully, you will never have to find out.

no wonder your president talks to god and your families are torn appart!! so yeah for a population of 200 thousand christian in jordan, we dont need you here! 23 protestant peaceful sects are more than enough!

Then I suggest in the future you don’t allow Protestants INTO YOUR COUNTRY, rather than letting them in and then persecuting them.

Yet you have managed to assassinate the only decent president you ever had kennedy because he was Roman Catholic and he wanted to help the palestinians!

Well, that’s the first time I heard THAT theory! And I thought I heard thjem all! :P

and all your Great Presidents Have Used Vetos against Palestine 32 times to shield Israel from critical draft resolutions between 1972 and 1997 and you say your christians are NOT BRAINWASHED?!!!

Do you think Palestinian and other middle-eastern Christians are brainwashed? Do you think it is normal for Christians to have a higher opinion of Muslims than they do of other Christians? Because that seems pretty damn strange, to me. And do you think it is normal for Christians to ignore what is commanded in their own scripture, in favor of what is commanded in Islamic scripture? It seems to me that Jordanian Christians have reached an understanding with Jordanian Muslims, for the sake of their continued survival (and at the expense of their own religion!) and that you have come to believe that this is how it is for Christians everywhere. It simply isn’t. I believe most Palestinians are Catholic - you do know that Catholics are the most aggressive of all Christians with missionary work, right? It’s grossly unfair for Jordanian Catholics to be pretending it’s only Protestants who do that, or that it isn’t part of the Christian faith to spread the word.

Weird protestants are active in Lebanon, see how they are tearing themselves into pieces and dare you think that you will ever do that in Jordan!

Hmmm?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Lebanon

The Maronite Church, a church in communion with the Roman Catholic Church, is the largest and politically most active and influential denomination of Lebanon’s Christians. The Greek Orthodox Church forms the second largest proportion of Lebanese Christians. The Armenian Apostolic Church also forms a large portion of the Christian population in Lebanon. Other branches of Christianity, including the Greek Melkite Catholic Church, an Eastern Catholic Church loyal to the Pope, are very common in Lebanon. The Latin Rite Roman Catholic Church, the Coptic Church, the Syriac Orthodox are also important Christian sects within Lebanon. These branches of Christianity are very influential in daily business and in the economy of Lebanon. In the Lebanese Parliament, the Christians hold 64 seats in tandem with 64 Muslim seats.

None of those “major” groups of Lebanese Christians is Protestant, Tala. The Moronites are Catholics and the Greek and Armenian Church are Eastern Rite Orthodox. Those are the three biggest denominations of Christians in Lebanon. I’m not aware of a single Lebanese Protestant who was involved in Lebanon’s civil war.

You know what the main difference between Christians in Lebanon and Christians in Jordan? Christians in Lebanon exist in large enough numbers that they can defend themselves. Christians in Jordan do not.

apparently 98% of the your converted Christians to protestants are Greek Orthodox here,, and hey dont be so sad, your people are still active here and are building four churches in madaba by CHRISTIAN CONVERTED JORDANIANS..

OK, good to know :)

it makes me wonder, what does the States have yet on its agenda for the Middle East! all you want is divide people into more sects to remain in Control! Dream On Habiby! Dream On you mess with Jordan!

You are blaming the US for Arab Protestants in Jordan? You think we sent them there? We didn’t. The US government doesn’t send missionaries anywhere, but we certainly aren’t sending Arabs from Arab countries to Jordan to do missionary work. You don’t really believe that, do you? But if you think that Jordan can persecute Protestants and there won’t be any repercussions from Protestant countries (like the US, and England) for that, you are wrong. That’s not a threat, it’s just common sense. We are fairly religious people over here, for the most part, and if things like this get publicized (it hasn’t been on the US news yet, that I’ve seen) a lot of Americans are going to be pretty upset. Did you notice how upset I got? Do you think politicians are any different?

lol craig my frowzy son, you don’t even know the population of your own country, it hit 300 in 2007. some 6 years after the date you have given. the estimates give the population at around 280 million in 2001, and don’t tell me you gave a rough estimate by adding 20 million thats 7% of the population that u rough estimated.

What “estimates”, dude? In any case, that “chart” is STILL wrong, because 50 million isn’t even close to 24% of 280 million. What’s your point? That data that whatsisface presented is a little bit less incorrect than I said it was? It’s still wrong, either way. And wrong by a lot. The figure presented for 2004 doesn’t even come up to the 24% of the US population claimed in 2001. Using their own numbers. I can’t believe any reputable statistician would attach his credentials to that thing when any layman can look at it and see that the numbers don’t work.

I’d still like to know who prepared that chart.

Jehovah’s witnesses and mormons account for less than 2% of the population combined. And I note YOUR survey is from 2001. You do know that America is MORE Christian (and more religious) now than it was in 2001, do you not? September 11th, 2001 had that effect on Americans.

And in any case, Bambam you said this:

thats not even anywhere close to 50% (your half) plus its not that different in the states either … its a slightly higher percentage but not close to half of the christians.

And whether we use your numbers, Ahriman’s numbers, or my numbers, what you said there was off by a mile. There are somewhere between 2 and 3 times more Protestants than Catholics in the United States. Do you admit to being wrong? This requires a yes or no answer. You’ve just proven YOURSELF wrong, and if you still won’t admit it, you are a hopeless case.

Since you belong to the church of england and not a lutheran denomination

Dude, “Lutheran” is it’s own denomination. There aren’t multiple versions of it. And it’s a very small denomination, these days. So, now you are going to play games claiming some Protestants are heretics and others aren’t? Screw that.

I went and asked and verified why the foreign christians were deported, and the reason is because they converted 17 muslim families and baptized them in jordan river. and those who were deported didn\’t belong to 1 sect or 2, they belonged to 46 different christian religious parties and sects that are under the umbrella of protestants who have intentions to tear our stability to pieces like that of Lebanon, yet protestants have remaining 23 religious sects allowed in Jordan and have been in the middle east since 1845 and the biggest example is the American Univesity of Beirut which was the American Protestant University and dropped protestant later on and the Bishop School in Amman which is also protestant! the number of sects under protestants parties is over 2500! when Protestants are being Deproted you become one, when my National Security Becomes under threat Christians and Muslims here become ONE! no wonder your president talks to god and your families are torn appart!! so yeah for a population of 200 thousand christian in jordan, we dont need you here! 23 protestant peaceful sects are more than enough!

Yet you have managed to assassinate the only decent president you ever had kennedy because he was Roman Catholic and he wanted to help the palestinians! and all your Great Presidents Have Used Vetos against Palestine 32 times to shield Israel from critical draft resolutions between 1972 and 1997 and you say your christians are NOT BRAINWASHED?!!!

Weird protestants are active in Lebanon, see how they are tearing themselves into pieces and dare you think that you will ever do that in Jordan! apparently 98% of the your converted Christians to protestants are Greek Orthodox here,, and hey dont be so sad, your people are still active here and are building four churches in madaba by CHRISTIAN CONVERTED JORDANIANS..

it makes me wonder, what does the States have yet on its agenda for the Middle East! all you want is divide people into more sects to remain in Control! Dream On Habiby! Dream On you mess with Jordan!

your 88% of the population is christian is from 1990! sheesh talk about bad science. oh and by the way, jehova’s witness and the church of later day saints are included under christians.

Since you belong to the church of england and not a lutheran denomination, your church was established because Henry VIII was bored with his wife and wanted to divorce her, and protestants allow that. so don’t make it off like its an ideological struggle when its just a basic “what suites my needs” reason…

just because i care …. here is how it was run.
he American Religious Identification Survey (ARIS) 2001 was based on a random digit-dialed telephone survey of 50,281 American residential households in the continental U.S.A (48 states). Respondents were asked to describe themselves in terms of religion with an open-ended question. Interviewers did not prompt or offer a suggested list of potential answers. The primary question of the interview was: What is your religion, if any? The religion of the spouse/partner was also asked. If the initial answer was ‘Protestant’ or ‘Christian’ further questions were asked to probe which particular denomination.

here it is if you care to challenge it, http://www.gc.cuny.edu/faculty/research_briefs/aris.pdf

if you can’t even digest basic numbers and fact of your own religion and country, how do you expect me not to be skeptical of you historical regurgitation

The more you talk, the more you prove you don’t know anything. When it comes to warring people who persecute us, we’re all just protestants. I said before and I’ll say it again, you can ask the Pope what happens to people who persecute Protestants. Or, you can just do a Google search on Protestant Reformation. Or you can keep saying stupid stuff :)

Why would I care what the Pope says? The Pope is Catholic. He means nothing to me. You still don’t even know what Protstants are, do you? We warred Catholics into the ground during the middle ages. You know why? Because when we tried to correct errors in teh Catholic Church (like forgiving the sins of murderers, rapists and theives if they’d go on a Crusade) they accused us of heresy. When Catholics and Orthox Christians called Protestants illegitimate Christains, they were accusing us of heresy. Seriously bad idea.

As for your stats, the stats were wrong, buddy. Look at them. You ahev agood education, right? Or so you keep telling everyone! The flaws in that chart you copy pasted are pretty obvious. Did you edit it before pasting it? Because I ahve difficulty believing that a professional statistician would publish something with obvious math errors in it.

I’m not reading your latest attempt at providing data. It’s really quite pointless. All three of the current Presidential Candidates (Obama, Clinton and McCain) are Protestants. US Presidents are almost always Protestant. In fact, I believe ALL past US Presidents have been Protestant, except for John F. Kennedy, who was Roman Catholic. That isn’t a coincidence, is it? :P

By the way, the Clintons are Baptists. You should be very happy that they aren’t very religious. Shouldn’t you? Or do you REALLY believe that US Presidentsv and American people are above taking it personally when their co-relgionists get persecuted in a foreign country? Especially an ARAB MUSLIM country. In the middle of the war on terror. Genius plan, right?You want to persecute Christians, you better choose a sect that can’t persecute you back.

<hr /><a name="2004total"></a>* <b>2004 total population numbers</b> were calculated by multiplying each group’s percent of the total adult 2001 population (207,882,353) by the 2004 total population (using the June 1, 2004 U.S. Census Bureau extrapolated estimate of 293,382,953 total Americans). The U.S. Census Bureau total U.S. population estimate for 2000, based on the actual 2000 Census, was: 281,421,906. The U.S. Census Bureau total U.S. population estimate for July 1, 2001 was: 293,655,404. The adult (ages 18 and over) population estimate for July 1, 2001 was: 220,377,406. The total adult population for 2001 used in the 2001 ARIS study (apparently counting only adults aged 21 and over) was: 207,882,353. For 2001 figures, see: 293655404http://www.census.gov/popest/states/asrh/SC-est2004-01.html. <i>This method of extrapolating the 2004 total population of each religious group from the 2001 adult population of each group <b>does not</b> factor in differences in the average number of children per adult for each religious group</i>

He courted the religious right and lost the fair minded all American others even firebrand Rev. Hagee could not help. Amerivca has spoken that they want nothing to do with extremism and supermacists and judeo-christians. Now you got to listen Warrior now graduated to threatening soveriegn countries with annihilation because they decalred 40 trouble makers persona non grata.&nbsp;Are there smart bombs that kills only muslims or will christians be collateral damage too.

Missed the news , did the Pope denounce the Board of Christian Churches in Jordan??? did not hear he did. Think not. Don’t you trust the Pope to do the handling????Warrior.
Downed many drinks already or cooked some crack? Will not help to bury your head in the sand. Brown Obama is our next white house resident.

My bad should not be so hard on craigs they are already a nervous wrecks