Rejecting The King
To the people who visited us this evening:
Sod off! Your expensive car and your expensive clothes, your degrees and your social status, ALL mean nothing since they have obviously not improved your sickening attitudes towards a woman who could have, in a parallel universe, been a potential bride for your son.
You come to visit us, in our house, when you have already been told that I am not interested. Yet you come, and you make it appear like you want to genuinely get to know my family for whatever social purposes and you make it seem you understand that I am not going to be sized up like a sack of potatoes. You come and we receive you, then you dare ask why I am not present. You, old hag with a PhD, mother of a 30-something ‘independent‘ engineer looking for a wife, YOU bluntly say you want to see me so you can describe me to your son. How lowly of you! Do you think all women are as cheap and available as you once were?
Did they not teach you that women are not objects? That even if you find a 100 who are willing to serve you coffee when you honor them with your visit, and let you look at them up and down, and let you go back home and call your little momma’s boy and tell him “she has short hair, she’s petite and she has a nosering and a ton of earrings, we’re not buying”, that even if you find a 100 women letting you do that, you do NOT find that marriage worship in my house?
I know why you came. You thought you could embarrass me or my family with social crap. You thought if you came and asked for me, I would somehow be polite enough to go out and meet you because it would be socially inappropriate otherwise. In the meantime, do you know what I was doing in my room? I was studying in my pajamas and eating ice cream. You see, I do not care about you or about your little king, just as much as you do not care about my intelligence and feelings. Quid pro quo, mofos. This one is not so polite.
You wanted to see me and you didn’t. It’s offensive that you imagined I would be willing to be treated like that, but then again, you don’t even know me. Did you honestly think my family will force me to shyly parade in front of you? Or that they will shy away from telling you that I will NOT bother to see you because your king is not with you, and that even if he was, I will not see you anyway? Why did you lie then, and say that you wanted to get to know us only?
You, old hag –daughter of some minister, you must have done rounds like this before. I am sure you have a candidates’ list of all the houses and the girls you have seen for your ‘boy,’ and I am sure you looked at everything in these girls. I am sure you know exactly which one of them has a longish nose, which has big ears, which has a lisp, which has an attitude, which has boobs too small for your son’s taste; I am sure you know all that.
You expected me to join your list and be proud of it. You thought I would be happy because your son will consider me as an option, if I was lucky. You imagined that I will let you degrade me such that when the king finally decides to come do the rounds with you, to check out the candidates you shortlisted for him and size them up again, I will be on cloud number nine because, oh my god, a man I don’t know shit about is considering me for his wife.
By refusing to be another BODY on your list, I retained my value which balanced people appreciate. I am not yours to buy, and I will not be part of your king’s imaginary harem when you describe these other women to him. You do not know me, and you never will. I am above your petty list, your examining stares, your twisted sense of social conduct, your disgusting expectations. Moreover, I am kingdoms above your little king.
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March 15th, 2008 at 7:37 pm
Wow. Bravo. I can’t believe this is still practised to this very day.
March 15th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
I understand the king did not see his future kingdom, nor the kingdom saw the king. What were the criteria that prompted such a visit? The guy has his nose deeply buried in books , even in the seventies most of the guys I know in Jordan got the green light to go and ask for her hand from the concerned kingdoms respectively.
March 15th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
thats one good post …
i wonder if i can get a hold of that LIST …
keep it up
March 15th, 2008 at 8:03 pm
Bravo tololy, it might have been fun to tell the hag all that in person :)
March 15th, 2008 at 8:20 pm
Way to go girl! Wohoooooooooo! I agree with every word you said and I say the same things to people.
What’s wrong with having a nose ring? Or many earings? Bleah.
Honestly, a guy who uses his mother or sisters or aunts or some match maker to find him a bride has no personality or decision making skills. He should be ashamed to be human!
March 15th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
So you got rejected?
March 15th, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Come on don’t be harsh on the guy, he already had four failed marriages of his choice, time to try his mother’s choice.
March 15th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Thanks for the good post. I wish you’ll be able to say it in real life
March 15th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
Pros and cons- I know a few girls who sneezed at many suitors and 75% are now spinsters and few had to come down to earth after pushing 40. Got to make the best of what is on tap
March 15th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
Wooohaaa Tololy :-)
March 15th, 2008 at 10:09 pm
You’re awesome.
March 15th, 2008 at 10:18 pm
Come on, Tololy, you couldn’t even humor me and at least send out a Marriage Candidate Application? ;P
March 15th, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Great post, but will the groom and his familia receive a copy of this post by mail or will they read it off their blackberry while they look for a bride?
March 15th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
You know, even though I disagree with this practice, and I applaud you for your position. I was forced to be in the guy’s shoes several times. And never liked it
But here’s the part where you are completely wrong.
Not every women who accepts this practice "cheap" or "degrades her self". Many of them has no say, and for others this is the only way they can get quality grooms who are backed by the blessings of their families (ie, another form of social protection)
A woman who marries in this way is also very honorable, and shouldn’t be described in the fashion you did above. It’s not fair to blame the victims, you of all people should know, and should sympathize with ones that are less fortunate than you.
The most amazing case would be the case where the boy and girl already know, love and accept each other, and then they go over the social make up. But so very few have that…
Anyway, way to go on your rejection
Unrelated:
The comment text box is too short, can you make it a little taller? The width is great but the height is too short
March 15th, 2008 at 11:41 pm
So mom is choosing the bride? Paging Dr. Freud….
March 15th, 2008 at 11:43 pm
Oh and one last thing. How come she insisted to come to your house when your folks told her you’re not interested?
Most people will say (and I don’t agree with this by the way) they will immediately say: "Looks like, she’s got someone". So most "mommys" will not insist that much. I know because I suffered from this for a very very long time! Even my mother suffered from women convincing her to go see X or batteekha!
March 16th, 2008 at 1:16 am
Well done! I am so proud of you and have done the same in my day :) My family too was supportive and backed my decision that I wasn’t a sack of potatoes to be inspected by a dim wit for someone who didn’t have the commo sense to make his own choices in life.
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March 16th, 2008 at 1:43 am
Mona, the guy often doesn’t have much choice about the matter.
Every time my brother visits Jordan over the holidays, my parents try to do the same thing, and it drives him nuts. Luckily they’ve totally given up on me :)
This is one tradition we need to let go off. I’d also love to dump 3azaa traditions while we’re at it.
March 16th, 2008 at 1:57 am
I am glad that you stand up for what you believe… Actually, I’d be surprised if you didn’t… But for all the time I read on this blog, I didn’t before find you talking with such harsh language!!
Well, you did use it when that guy bragged on your girlfriend with his car… But don’t you think that these incidents are actually making you walk out of yourself?! Speak in ways you don’t usually speak?! I think that keeping yourself together, and avoiding strong emotional baggage is a more reasonable course of action!!
I am not sure if you are making this a big deal for the sake of writing this article, or to vent out emotional baggage… But if its the latter, I would think you can have a better grip on yourself… In bad social situations, having a good grip is important.
March 16th, 2008 at 2:24 am
Having read the article for a second time and thought more of the situation, I think that you acted a bit cowardly…
First, you start the article by:
"To the people who visited us this evening: … etc"
It seems to me that you had certain things you wanted to say to those unwanted visitors that you didn’t say!! You decided to stay in your room because you didn’t want that woman to see you, so that she won’t be able to "describe" you to her son…
Now thats a veiled woman talking. [In honesty, I used the adjective ‘veiled’ to denote a negative trait - but thats NOT to be generalized!] The problem is that you have used a ‘cover’ (staying in your room) to run away from confrontation. You think that if she saw your face or your body, that she would have automatically won.
But what I think should have happened, is to show up, and calmly explain that you are not interested. <b>Face her with the truth.</b> I understand that by your twisted logic, you think that by showing up, you would have lost, but I beg to differ!
March 16th, 2008 at 6:40 am
And I agree with the above comment (19) from Devil’s Mind, albeit I wouldn’t describe you as cowardly.
March 16th, 2008 at 6:40 am
I meant comment number 20, not 19! I actually totally disagree with 19 :)
March 16th, 2008 at 7:26 am
Bravo!
March 16th, 2008 at 10:09 am
To the guys who think they’ve come up with really smart and wiseass remarks (i.e Sari.) In the words of Tololy: SOD OFF!
The simple male brain can not comprehend the magnitude of this situation and what it exactly means to a liberal and free-thinking woman.
March 16th, 2008 at 10:21 am
Definitely the best post I read in a while… and I stress on everything you said… This so-called-social crap should STOP!!!
March 16th, 2008 at 11:18 am
Tol, I wonder if you know the guy but he sends his mother to see you first as kinda family tradition would that make a difference to you? Would your response be the same? I dunno is it that whole ‘style’ you hate or it’s just because you don’t know those people?
And assuming you are interested or at least not ‘not-interested’ would you show up if that ‘boy’ is there??
Am not saying am with or against what you’ve done because I really dunno and I didn’t even think about this at all, but I always wondered how it should be done if the one is not in ‘The most amazing case’ mentioned by Qwaider (who I agree with his comments)!!
March 16th, 2008 at 11:22 am
Tololy, I AM PROUD OF YOU :)
You women have to stand up for youselves. It is time to change old degrading habits.
March 16th, 2008 at 1:28 pm
Toloy, WOOHOOO! Za-af 3alayki! Hey, try submitting this to PULP!
March 16th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Thanks for your comments, I was angry when I wrote this post so that explains the language. I can’t respond to all the comments you made, but I appreciate the support! Thank you :)
Qwaider, they must have thought that I will be forced by ‘proper social conduct’ to come see them, I guess that is why they came even after they were told I am not interested.
I agree that many women are forced to go through similar situations and do not necessarily enjoy them, and I hinted at that in the post. Calling that woman cheap and available in her day is something I will not change my mind about, simply because she must have been indeed ‘available’ and must have had some sort of ‘value’ which is why she allowed, or her family allowed, her to be treated the way she wanted to treat me.
I am against the inspection of potential brides like they are merchandise, and I see it as explicit objectification. If she has gone through this in her day, and still condones it and does it to other women, then she is pretty backward. Oh, and she even mentioned something about this "way" being the "decent way for an engagement." Apparently, in her opinion, all the women in the world who marry in different ways are indecent harlots.
My point is, women should not perpetuate this kind of humiliating treatment of their gender. She did, so goodbye and good riddance to her!
Devil’s Mind, read the first lines of my comment. I do get angry when someone looks down on me with an air of superiority, and this language is a product of these feelings. I don’t see why you say I don’t have a ‘grip’ on myself while at the same time accusing me of being cowardly exactly for having that grip on myself. It doesn’t make sense to me, but all the same, I will not justify my actions and my attitudes to you. You can think about it a little, and find out that what I did was anything but cowardly. Bursting in the guests’ room and yelling at the woman would not have achieved anything but a bad rep for my family, while ignoring her presence and having my opinion explained to her AGAIN by my mother spited her to madness. Goodbye and good riddance, again!
March 16th, 2008 at 3:07 pm
All this happened while I was away in Syria??
Forget this. I am never going to Syria again!
*Rambling Hal high fives Tololy*
WOohoo!!!
March 16th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
First of all I said: "But what I think should have happened, is to show up, and calmly explain that you are not interested" - Being calm is important, because as you have already realized: "Bursting in the guests’ room and yelling at the woman would not have achieved anything"
So it is important that you take a grip on yourself and face a problem. The way you have explained yourself now suggests that you knew you couldn’t stay calm in front of the guests, and hence decided that avoiding the confrontation altogether is easier.
It seems that you mistakenly thought that you had two options, to start yelling at them, or ignore them altogether. But the more reasonable -and mature- option, is as I explained, to calmly explain yourself.
You are an adult lady, and it would seem more reasonable that you handle what concerns you by yourself, instead of shifting the responsibility to your parents. This amount of maturity is not easy… I, myself, am not mature enough to handle all social situations on my own… And I understand that traditional marriage procedure is not a situation you’d go through everyday. But at least, admitting that a problem exists is part of the solution!
What you did was great! But this doesn’t mean that you couldn’t have done better…
March 16th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
I think Tololy handled the matter nicely, got what she want and did not have to do what would have amounted to insult face to face.She used the same measure being used on her, the king did not come so the queen need not show up too. She just avoided making a direct personal enmity. Why confront when you can get your point across in a manner others can relate to better. Her parents must have put the matter nicely and everybody can forget about it and move on. Many came for my sisters that way and when she did not want all my parents had to say is she is either young or studying and we maintained friendly relations with all those rejected. By the way my sisters got married to their choice later even though in one case through the same procedure but she did see the king who came with his group.
March 16th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Forgot to add that looking at the facts presented to us -( what we know)- in the post I would say bashing them in cyperspace is not warranted.
March 16th, 2008 at 5:43 pm
Devil’s Mind, well I take that back. You did say "calmly" and I did not notice it. But at any rate, that would not have been taken well. Add to that, these people had already been informed that I was not interested. Quite frankly, I think meeting them and talking to them would have been an utter waste of my time, as well as a window for them to ‘talk’ about my family, which is something I do not tolerate. I think they got the picture, on my terms.
March 16th, 2008 at 7:29 pm
So u sticked to ur standards, and they sticked to theirs..which makes it a draw, actually I see no conflict here between u and them,its a matter of 2ismeh ou naseeb and personal preference.
But I’ll simply remind u that a good man,who got good brains and can satisfy ur mentality..but got a hole in his pocket..may not be the best choice when u hardly can get by every month,and can’t afford to give u and ur kids the life u want for them..
..the benz and daddy’s wealth is always a win win in this situation.
March 16th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
Look, what you did is admirable. I have looked at the situation from two perspective. The first perspective is that you have been able to make a point, and send a message about your insight on the topic. Thats the good part.
The other part is personal growth. While you have been able to send a message to others, you forgot how this experience can help you grow. I assume that this is the first time this happens to you, and for a first time you did great, you must have been confused and filled with anger (as you described). Personal growth is achieved when you are able to overcome anger -the anger that prevents you from acting rationally-, and act in a mature manner.
For example, you say:
"Add to that, these people had already been informed that I was not interested." - Been informed?! Thats passive voice… Who informed them?!
Now, your marriage is your choice… You are the final arbiter! No one should speak on your behalf about your life choices. You marriage is your own life choice… So if those people where informed by some rumor, or someone from outer space told them, it was correct for them to ignore those signs. Because no one has the authority to dismiss them but you… Not even your mother or sister!
So unless they were directly informed by you that you are not interested, you have no basis to claim they were informed!! Don’t you think that in a twisted way, it was actually respectful of them not to take somebody else’s input on the subject, and wish to take your input directly?! [I know that not how it happened ;) ]
March 17th, 2008 at 5:46 am
Bravo, Tololy. Take a bow, you have summed up the feelings of millions of girls over many years.
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March 18th, 2008 at 4:35 am
والله أنك مشكلجيه يا تولي، هذه هوا الطريق الصحيح،يجب علي النساء أن يرفعن صوتهنا حتي يبداء التغير ،ليس هناك حل سوا ذالك
March 21st, 2008 at 8:41 pm
Tololy, Could you at least have come down and offered the woman some ice cream out of your spoon? LOOOOL
Unfortunately my whole life I have missed out on such entertainment, I have anti-marriage parents if there existed such a thing. They don’t even like having people over who have single sons of marriageble age in case they get ideas, and my villager dad has on occasion yelled at people who suggest something and asks "who exactly do you think your son is". I think my dad hates guys.
Seriously, awesome post!