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		<title>By: asoom</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42949</link>
		<dc:creator>asoom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 18:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tololy, Could you at least have come down and offered the woman some ice cream out of your spoon? LOOOOL

Unfortunately my whole life I have missed out on such entertainment, I have anti-marriage parents if there existed such a thing.  They don't even like having people over who have single sons of marriageble age in case they get ideas, and my villager dad has on occasion yelled at people who suggest something and asks &#34;who exactly do you think your son is&#34;.  I think my dad hates guys.

Seriously, awesome post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tololy, Could you at least have come down and offered the woman some ice cream out of your spoon? LOOOOL</p>
<p>Unfortunately my whole life I have missed out on such entertainment, I have anti-marriage parents if there existed such a thing.  They don&#8217;t even like having people over who have single sons of marriageble age in case they get ideas, and my villager dad has on occasion yelled at people who suggest something and asks &quot;who exactly do you think your son is&quot;.  I think my dad hates guys.</p>
<p>Seriously, awesome post!</p>
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		<title>By: المشكلجي</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42837</link>
		<dc:creator>المشكلجي</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:35:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>والله أنك مشكلجيه يا تولي، هذه هوا الطريق الصحيح،يجب علي  النساء أن يرفعن صوتهنا حتي يبداء التغير ،ليس هناك حل سوا ذالك</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>والله أنك مشكلجيه يا تولي، هذه هوا الطريق الصحيح،يجب علي  النساء أن يرفعن صوتهنا حتي يبداء التغير ،ليس هناك حل سوا ذالك</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices بالعربية &#187; الأردن: كلا لاختيار الزوجات</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42824</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices بالعربية &#187; الأردن: كلا لاختيار الزوجات</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 20:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] تولولي من الأردن تكتب تدوينة مهمة عن بعض الرجال الذين ما [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] تولولي من الأردن تكتب تدوينة مهمة عن بعض الرجال الذين ما [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lulu</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42812</link>
		<dc:creator>lulu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Mar 2008 03:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo, Tololy. Take a bow, you have summed up the feelings of millions of girls over many years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo, Tololy. Take a bow, you have summed up the feelings of millions of girls over many years.</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Mind</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42809</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:17:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Look, what you did is admirable. I have looked at the situation from two perspective. The first perspective is that you have been able to make a point, and send a message about your insight on the topic. Thats the good part. 

The other part is personal growth. While you have been able to send a message to others, you forgot how this experience can help you grow. I assume that this is the first time this happens to you, and for a first time you did great, you must have been confused and filled with anger (as you described). Personal growth is achieved when you are able to overcome anger -the anger that prevents you from acting rationally-, and act in a mature manner.

For example, you say:
&#34;Add to that, these people had already &lt;strong&gt;been informed&lt;/strong&gt; that I was not interested.&#34; - Been informed?! Thats passive voice... Who informed them?! 

Now, your marriage is your choice... You are the final arbiter! No one should speak on your behalf about your life choices. You marriage is your own life choice... So if those people where informed by some rumor, or someone from outer space told them, it was correct for them to ignore those signs. Because no one has the authority to dismiss them but you... Not even your mother or sister!

So unless they were directly informed by you that you are not interested, you have no basis to claim they were informed!! Don't you think that in a twisted way, it was actually respectful of them not to take somebody else's input on the subject, and wish to take your input directly?! [I know that not how it happened ;) ]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, what you did is admirable. I have looked at the situation from two perspective. The first perspective is that you have been able to make a point, and send a message about your insight on the topic. Thats the good part. </p>
<p>The other part is personal growth. While you have been able to send a message to others, you forgot how this experience can help you grow. I assume that this is the first time this happens to you, and for a first time you did great, you must have been confused and filled with anger (as you described). Personal growth is achieved when you are able to overcome anger -the anger that prevents you from acting rationally-, and act in a mature manner.</p>
<p>For example, you say:<br />
&quot;Add to that, these people had already <strong>been informed</strong> that I was not interested.&quot; - Been informed?! Thats passive voice&#8230; Who informed them?! </p>
<p>Now, your marriage is your choice&#8230; You are the final arbiter! No one should speak on your behalf about your life choices. You marriage is your own life choice&#8230; So if those people where informed by some rumor, or someone from outer space told them, it was correct for them to ignore those signs. Because no one has the authority to dismiss them but you&#8230; Not even your mother or sister!</p>
<p>So unless they were directly informed by you that you are not interested, you have no basis to claim they were informed!! Don&#8217;t you think that in a twisted way, it was actually respectful of them not to take somebody else&#8217;s input on the subject, and wish to take your input directly?! [I know that not how it happened ;) ]</p>
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		<title>By: mr.anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42807</link>
		<dc:creator>mr.anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 17:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So u sticked to ur standards, and they sticked to theirs..which makes it a draw, actually I see no conflict here between u and them,its a matter of 2ismeh ou naseeb and personal preference.

But I'll simply remind u that a good man,who got good brains and can satisfy ur mentality..but got a hole in his pocket..may not be the best choice when u hardly can get by every month,and can't afford to give u and ur kids the life u want for them..

..the benz and daddy's wealth is always a win win in this situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So u sticked to ur standards, and they sticked to theirs..which makes it a draw, actually I see no conflict here between u and them,its a matter of 2ismeh ou naseeb and personal preference.</p>
<p>But I&#8217;ll simply remind u that a good man,who got good brains and can satisfy ur mentality..but got a hole in his pocket..may not be the best choice when u hardly can get by every month,and can&#8217;t afford to give u and ur kids the life u want for them..</p>
<p>..the benz and daddy&#8217;s wealth is always a win win in this situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Tololy</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42806</link>
		<dc:creator>Tololy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 15:43:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Devil's Mind, well I take that back. You did say &#34;calmly&#34; and I did not notice it. But at any rate, that would not have been taken well. Add to that, these people had already been informed that I was not interested. Quite frankly, I think meeting them and talking to them would have been an utter waste of my time, as well as a window for them to 'talk' about my family, which is something I do not tolerate. I think they got the picture, on my terms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Devil&#8217;s Mind, well I take that back. You did say &quot;calmly&quot; and I did not notice it. But at any rate, that would not have been taken well. Add to that, these people had already been informed that I was not interested. Quite frankly, I think meeting them and talking to them would have been an utter waste of my time, as well as a window for them to &#8216;talk&#8217; about my family, which is something I do not tolerate. I think they got the picture, on my terms.</p>
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		<title>By: A.Rehman</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42802</link>
		<dc:creator>A.Rehman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forgot to add that looking at the facts presented to us -( what we know)-  in the post I would say bashing them in cyperspace is not warranted.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to add that looking at the facts presented to us -( what we know)-  in the post I would say bashing them in cyperspace is not warranted.</p>
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		<title>By: A.Rehman</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42800</link>
		<dc:creator>A.Rehman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:40:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Tololy handled the matter nicely, got what she want and did not have to do what would have amounted to insult face to face.She used the same measure being used on her, the king did not come so the queen need not show up too. She just avoided making a direct personal enmity. Why confront when you can get your point across in a manner others can relate to better. Her parents must have put the matter nicely and everybody can forget about it and move on. Many came for my sisters that way and when she did not want all my parents had to say is she is either young or studying and we maintained friendly relations with all those rejected. By the way my sisters got married to their choice later even though in one case through the same procedure but she did see the king who came with his group.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Tololy handled the matter nicely, got what she want and did not have to do what would have amounted to insult face to face.She used the same measure being used on her, the king did not come so the queen need not show up too. She just avoided making a direct personal enmity. Why confront when you can get your point across in a manner others can relate to better. Her parents must have put the matter nicely and everybody can forget about it and move on. Many came for my sisters that way and when she did not want all my parents had to say is she is either young or studying and we maintained friendly relations with all those rejected. By the way my sisters got married to their choice later even though in one case through the same procedure but she did see the king who came with his group.</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Mind</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42799</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all I said: &#34;But what I think should have happened, is to show up, and &lt;strong&gt;calmly&lt;/strong&gt; explain that you are not interested&#34; - Being calm is important, because as you have already realized: &#34;Bursting in the guests’ room and yelling at the woman would not have achieved anything&#34;

So it is important that you take a grip on yourself and face a problem. The way you have explained yourself now suggests that you knew you couldn't stay calm in front of the guests, and hence decided that avoiding the confrontation altogether is easier. 

It seems that you mistakenly thought that you had two options, to start yelling at them, or ignore them altogether. But the more reasonable -and mature- option, is as I explained, to calmly explain yourself. 

You are an adult lady, and it would seem more reasonable that you handle what concerns you by yourself, instead of shifting the responsibility to your parents. This amount of maturity is not easy... I, myself, am not mature enough to handle all social situations on my own... And I understand that traditional marriage procedure is not a situation you'd go through everyday. But at least, admitting that a problem exists is part of the solution! 

&lt;strong&gt;What you did was great! &lt;/strong&gt;But this doesn't mean that you couldn't have done better...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all I said: &quot;But what I think should have happened, is to show up, and <strong>calmly</strong> explain that you are not interested&quot; - Being calm is important, because as you have already realized: &quot;Bursting in the guests’ room and yelling at the woman would not have achieved anything&quot;</p>
<p>So it is important that you take a grip on yourself and face a problem. The way you have explained yourself now suggests that you knew you couldn&#8217;t stay calm in front of the guests, and hence decided that avoiding the confrontation altogether is easier. </p>
<p>It seems that you mistakenly thought that you had two options, to start yelling at them, or ignore them altogether. But the more reasonable -and mature- option, is as I explained, to calmly explain yourself. </p>
<p>You are an adult lady, and it would seem more reasonable that you handle what concerns you by yourself, instead of shifting the responsibility to your parents. This amount of maturity is not easy&#8230; I, myself, am not mature enough to handle all social situations on my own&#8230; And I understand that traditional marriage procedure is not a situation you&#8217;d go through everyday. But at least, admitting that a problem exists is part of the solution! </p>
<p><strong>What you did was great! </strong>But this doesn&#8217;t mean that you couldn&#8217;t have done better&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Hal</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42797</link>
		<dc:creator>Hal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 13:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All this happened while I was away in Syria??

Forget this. I am never going to Syria again!

*Rambling Hal high fives Tololy* 

WOohoo!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All this happened while I was away in Syria??</p>
<p>Forget this. I am never going to Syria again!</p>
<p>*Rambling Hal high fives Tololy* </p>
<p>WOohoo!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Tololy</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42794</link>
		<dc:creator>Tololy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for your comments, I was angry when I wrote this post so that explains the language. I can't respond to all the comments you made, but I appreciate the support! Thank you :)

&lt;strong&gt;Qwaider&lt;/strong&gt;, they must have thought that I will be forced by 'proper social conduct' to come see them, I guess that is why they came even after they were told I am not interested.

I agree that many women are forced to go through similar situations and do not necessarily enjoy them, and I hinted at that in the post. Calling that woman cheap and available in her day is something I will not change my mind about, simply because she must have been indeed 'available' and must have had some sort of 'value' which is why she allowed, or her family allowed, her to be treated the way she wanted to treat me. 

I am against the inspection of potential brides like they are merchandise, and I see it as explicit objectification. If she has gone through this in her day, and still condones it and does it to other women, then she is pretty backward. Oh, and she even mentioned something about this &#34;way&#34; being the &#34;decent way for an engagement.&#34; Apparently, in her opinion, all the women in the world who marry in different ways are indecent harlots.

My point is, women should not perpetuate this kind of humiliating treatment of their gender. She did, so goodbye and good riddance to her!
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Devil's Mind&lt;/strong&gt;, read the first lines of my comment. I do get angry when someone looks down on me with an air of superiority, and this language is a product of these feelings. I don't see why you say I don't have a 'grip' on myself while at the same time accusing me of being cowardly exactly for having that grip on myself. It doesn't make sense to me, but all the same, I will not justify my actions and my attitudes to you. You can think about it a little, and find out that what I did was anything but cowardly. Bursting in the guests' room and yelling at the woman would not have achieved anything but a bad rep for my family, while ignoring her presence and having my opinion explained to her AGAIN by my mother spited her to madness. Goodbye and good riddance, again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments, I was angry when I wrote this post so that explains the language. I can&#8217;t respond to all the comments you made, but I appreciate the support! Thank you :)</p>
<p><strong>Qwaider</strong>, they must have thought that I will be forced by &#8216;proper social conduct&#8217; to come see them, I guess that is why they came even after they were told I am not interested.</p>
<p>I agree that many women are forced to go through similar situations and do not necessarily enjoy them, and I hinted at that in the post. Calling that woman cheap and available in her day is something I will not change my mind about, simply because she must have been indeed &#8216;available&#8217; and must have had some sort of &#8216;value&#8217; which is why she allowed, or her family allowed, her to be treated the way she wanted to treat me. </p>
<p>I am against the inspection of potential brides like they are merchandise, and I see it as explicit objectification. If she has gone through this in her day, and still condones it and does it to other women, then she is pretty backward. Oh, and she even mentioned something about this &quot;way&quot; being the &quot;decent way for an engagement.&quot; Apparently, in her opinion, all the women in the world who marry in different ways are indecent harlots.</p>
<p>My point is, women should not perpetuate this kind of humiliating treatment of their gender. She did, so goodbye and good riddance to her!<br />
<strong><br />
Devil&#8217;s Mind</strong>, read the first lines of my comment. I do get angry when someone looks down on me with an air of superiority, and this language is a product of these feelings. I don&#8217;t see why you say I don&#8217;t have a &#8216;grip&#8217; on myself while at the same time accusing me of being cowardly exactly for having that grip on myself. It doesn&#8217;t make sense to me, but all the same, I will not justify my actions and my attitudes to you. You can think about it a little, and find out that what I did was anything but cowardly. Bursting in the guests&#8217; room and yelling at the woman would not have achieved anything but a bad rep for my family, while ignoring her presence and having my opinion explained to her AGAIN by my mother spited her to madness. Goodbye and good riddance, again!</p>
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		<title>By: kinzi</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42791</link>
		<dc:creator>kinzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 11:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Toloy, WOOHOOO! Za-af 3alayki! Hey, try submitting this to PULP!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Toloy, WOOHOOO! Za-af 3alayki! Hey, try submitting this to PULP!</p>
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		<title>By: The Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42790</link>
		<dc:creator>The Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tololy, I AM PROUD OF YOU :)

You women have to stand up for youselves.  It is time to change old degrading habits. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tololy, I AM PROUD OF YOU :)</p>
<p>You women have to stand up for youselves.  It is time to change old degrading habits. </p>
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		<title>By: Abdullah</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42789</link>
		<dc:creator>Abdullah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 09:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tol, I wonder if you know the guy but he sends his mother to see you first as kinda family tradition would that make a difference to you? Would your response be the same? I dunno is it that whole ‘style’ you hate or it’s just because you don’t know those people?
And assuming you are interested or at least not ‘not-interested’ would you show up if that ‘boy’ is there??
Am not saying am with or against what you’ve done because I really dunno and I didn’t even think about this at all, but I always wondered how it should be done if the one is not in ‘The most amazing case’ mentioned by Qwaider (who I agree with his comments)!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tol, I wonder if you know the guy but he sends his mother to see you first as kinda family tradition would that make a difference to you? Would your response be the same? I dunno is it that whole ‘style’ you hate or it’s just because you don’t know those people?<br />
And assuming you are interested or at least not ‘not-interested’ would you show up if that ‘boy’ is there??<br />
Am not saying am with or against what you’ve done because I really dunno and I didn’t even think about this at all, but I always wondered how it should be done if the one is not in ‘The most amazing case’ mentioned by Qwaider (who I agree with his comments)!!</p>
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		<title>By: super devoika</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42788</link>
		<dc:creator>super devoika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Definitely  the best post  I read in a while... and I stress on everything you said... This so-called-social crap should STOP!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely  the best post  I read in a while&#8230; and I stress on everything you said&#8230; This so-called-social crap should STOP!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Azure</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42787</link>
		<dc:creator>Azure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:09:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the guys who think they've come up with really smart and wiseass remarks (i.e Sari.) In the words of Tololy: SOD OFF!
The simple male brain can not comprehend the magnitude of this  situation and what it exactly means to a liberal and free-thinking woman.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the guys who think they&#8217;ve come up with really smart and wiseass remarks (i.e Sari.) In the words of Tololy: SOD OFF!<br />
The simple male brain can not comprehend the magnitude of this  situation and what it exactly means to a liberal and free-thinking woman.</p>
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		<title>By: tommy</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42784</link>
		<dc:creator>tommy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 05:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo!</description>
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42783</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I meant comment number 20, not 19!  I actually totally disagree with 19 :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I meant comment number 20, not 19!  I actually totally disagree with 19 :)</p>
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		<title>By: Austin</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42782</link>
		<dc:creator>Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And I agree with the above comment (19) from Devil's Mind, albeit I wouldn't describe you as cowardly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I agree with the above comment (19) from Devil&#8217;s Mind, albeit I wouldn&#8217;t describe you as cowardly.</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Mind</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42778</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having read the article for a second time and thought more of the situation, I think that you acted a bit cowardly...

First, you start the article by:
&#34;To the people who visited us this evening: ... etc&#34;

It seems to me that you had certain things you wanted to say to those unwanted visitors that you didn't say!! You decided to stay in your room because you didn't want that woman to see you, so that she won't be able to &#34;describe&#34; you to her son...

Now thats a veiled woman talking. [In honesty, I used the adjective 'veiled' to denote a negative trait - but thats NOT to be generalized!] The problem is that you have used a 'cover' (staying in your room) to run away from confrontation. You think that if she saw your face or your body, that she would have automatically won. 

But what I think should have happened, is to show up, and calmly explain that you are not interested. &#60;b&#62;Face her with the truth.&#60;/b&#62; I understand that by your twisted logic, you think that by showing up, you would have lost, but I beg to differ!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having read the article for a second time and thought more of the situation, I think that you acted a bit cowardly&#8230;</p>
<p>First, you start the article by:<br />
&quot;To the people who visited us this evening: &#8230; etc&quot;</p>
<p>It seems to me that you had certain things you wanted to say to those unwanted visitors that you didn&#8217;t say!! You decided to stay in your room because you didn&#8217;t want that woman to see you, so that she won&#8217;t be able to &quot;describe&quot; you to her son&#8230;</p>
<p>Now thats a veiled woman talking. [In honesty, I used the adjective 'veiled' to denote a negative trait - but thats NOT to be generalized!] The problem is that you have used a &#8216;cover&#8217; (staying in your room) to run away from confrontation. You think that if she saw your face or your body, that she would have automatically won. </p>
<p>But what I think should have happened, is to show up, and calmly explain that you are not interested. &lt;b&gt;Face her with the truth.&lt;/b&gt; I understand that by your twisted logic, you think that by showing up, you would have lost, but I beg to differ!</p>
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		<title>By: Devil's Mind</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42777</link>
		<dc:creator>Devil's Mind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad that you stand up for what you believe... Actually, I'd be surprised if you didn't... But for all the time I read on this blog, I didn't before find you talking with such harsh language!!


Well, you did use it when that guy bragged on your girlfriend with his car... But don't you think that these incidents are actually making you walk out of yourself?! Speak in ways you don't usually speak?! I think that keeping yourself together, and avoiding strong emotional baggage is a more reasonable course of action!!

I am not sure if you are making this a big deal for the sake of writing this article, or to vent out emotional baggage... But if its the latter, I would think you can have a better grip on yourself... In bad social situations, having a good grip is important.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad that you stand up for what you believe&#8230; Actually, I&#8217;d be surprised if you didn&#8217;t&#8230; But for all the time I read on this blog, I didn&#8217;t before find you talking with such harsh language!!</p>
<p>Well, you did use it when that guy bragged on your girlfriend with his car&#8230; But don&#8217;t you think that these incidents are actually making you walk out of yourself?! Speak in ways you don&#8217;t usually speak?! I think that keeping yourself together, and avoiding strong emotional baggage is a more reasonable course of action!!</p>
<p>I am not sure if you are making this a big deal for the sake of writing this article, or to vent out emotional baggage&#8230; But if its the latter, I would think you can have a better grip on yourself&#8230; In bad social situations, having a good grip is important.</p>
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		<title>By: Hani obaid</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42776</link>
		<dc:creator>Hani obaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mona, the guy often doesn't have much choice about the matter.

Every time my brother visits Jordan over the holidays, my parents try to do the same thing, and it drives him nuts. Luckily they've totally given up on me :) 

This is one tradition we need to let go off. I'd also love to dump 3azaa traditions while we're at it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mona, the guy often doesn&#8217;t have much choice about the matter.</p>
<p>Every time my brother visits Jordan over the holidays, my parents try to do the same thing, and it drives him nuts. Luckily they&#8217;ve totally given up on me :) </p>
<p>This is one tradition we need to let go off. I&#8217;d also love to dump 3azaa traditions while we&#8217;re at it.</p>
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		<title>By: Global Voices Online &#187; Jordan: No to Mama&#8217;s Boy</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42774</link>
		<dc:creator>Global Voices Online &#187; Jordan: No to Mama&#8217;s Boy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Tololy from Jordan writes an eye-opening post on how some men still let their mothers chose their brides for them.   Share This [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Tololy from Jordan writes an eye-opening post on how some men still let their mothers chose their brides for them.   Share This [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sillybahrainigirl</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42773</link>
		<dc:creator>sillybahrainigirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:16:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Well done! &lt;/strong&gt;I am so proud of you and have done the same in my day :) My family too was supportive and backed my decision that I wasn't a sack of potatoes to be inspected by a dim wit for someone who didn't have the commo sense to make his own choices in life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Well done! </strong>I am so proud of you and have done the same in my day :) My family too was supportive and backed my decision that I wasn&#8217;t a sack of potatoes to be inspected by a dim wit for someone who didn&#8217;t have the commo sense to make his own choices in life.</p>
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		<title>By: Qwaider قويدر</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42772</link>
		<dc:creator>Qwaider قويدر</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh and one last thing. How come she insisted to come to your house when your folks told her you're not interested?
Most people will say (and I don't agree with this by the way) they will immediately say: &#34;Looks like, she's got someone&#34;. So most &#34;mommys&#34; will not insist that much. I know because I suffered from this for a very very long time! Even my mother suffered from women convincing her to go see X or batteekha!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh and one last thing. How come she insisted to come to your house when your folks told her you&#8217;re not interested?<br />
Most people will say (and I don&#8217;t agree with this by the way) they will immediately say: &quot;Looks like, she&#8217;s got someone&quot;. So most &quot;mommys&quot; will not insist that much. I know because I suffered from this for a very very long time! Even my mother suffered from women convincing her to go see X or batteekha!</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Shea</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42771</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Shea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So mom is choosing the bride? Paging Dr. Freud....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So mom is choosing the bride? Paging Dr. Freud&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Qwaider قويدر</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42770</link>
		<dc:creator>Qwaider قويدر</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, even though I disagree with this practice, and I applaud you for your position. I was forced to be in the guy's shoes several times. And never liked it
But here's the part where you are completely wrong.
Not every women who accepts this practice &#34;cheap&#34; or &#34;degrades her self&#34;. Many of them has no say, and for others this is the only way they can get quality grooms who are backed by the blessings of their families (ie, another form of social protection)

A woman who marries in this way is also very honorable, and shouldn't be described in the fashion you did above. It's not fair to blame the victims, you of all people should know, and should sympathize with ones that are less fortunate than you.

The most amazing case would be the case where the boy and girl already know, love and accept each other, and then they go over the social make up. But so very few have that...

Anyway, way to go on your rejection

Unrelated:
The comment text box is too short, can you make it a little taller? The width is great but the height is too short</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, even though I disagree with this practice, and I applaud you for your position. I was forced to be in the guy&#8217;s shoes several times. And never liked it<br />
But here&#8217;s the part where you are completely wrong.<br />
Not every women who accepts this practice &quot;cheap&quot; or &quot;degrades her self&quot;. Many of them has no say, and for others this is the only way they can get quality grooms who are backed by the blessings of their families (ie, another form of social protection)</p>
<p>A woman who marries in this way is also very honorable, and shouldn&#8217;t be described in the fashion you did above. It&#8217;s not fair to blame the victims, you of all people should know, and should sympathize with ones that are less fortunate than you.</p>
<p>The most amazing case would be the case where the boy and girl already know, love and accept each other, and then they go over the social make up. But so very few have that&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, way to go on your rejection</p>
<p>Unrelated:<br />
The comment text box is too short, can you make it a little taller? The width is great but the height is too short</p>
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		<title>By: Ammar</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42769</link>
		<dc:creator>Ammar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, but will the groom and his familia receive a copy of this post by mail or will they read it off their blackberry while they look for a bride? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, but will the groom and his familia receive a copy of this post by mail or will they read it off their blackberry while they look for a bride?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42757</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on, Tololy, you couldn't even humor me and at least send out a &lt;a href="http://www.american-in-jordan.com/index.php/2007/11/30/for-all-your-marriage-proposal-needs/" title="Marriage Candidate Application" rel="nofollow"&gt;Marriage Candidate Application&lt;/a&gt;? ;P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on, Tololy, you couldn&#8217;t even humor me and at least send out a <a href="http://www.american-in-jordan.com/index.php/2007/11/30/for-all-your-marriage-proposal-needs/" title="Marriage Candidate Application" rel="nofollow">Marriage Candidate Application</a>? ;P</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42756</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're awesome.</description>
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		<title>By: Jad</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42742</link>
		<dc:creator>Jad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wooohaaa Tololy :-) 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wooohaaa Tololy :-)<br />
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		<title>By: A.Rehman</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42741</link>
		<dc:creator>A.Rehman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pros and cons- I know a few girls who sneezed at many suitors and 75% are now spinsters and few had to come down to earth after pushing 40. Got to make the best of what is on tap</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pros and cons- I know a few girls who sneezed at many suitors and 75% are now spinsters and few had to come down to earth after pushing 40. Got to make the best of what is on tap</p>
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		<title>By: Hareega</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42740</link>
		<dc:creator>Hareega</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the good post. I wish you'll be able to say it in real life</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the good post. I wish you&#8217;ll be able to say it in real life</p>
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		<title>By: A.Rehman</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42738</link>
		<dc:creator>A.Rehman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:41:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Come on don't be harsh on the guy, he already hadÂ four failed marriages of his choice, time to try his mother's choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on don&#8217;t be harsh on the guy, he already hadÂ four failed marriages of his choice, time to try his mother&#8217;s choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Sari</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42737</link>
		<dc:creator>Sari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you got rejected?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you got rejected?</p>
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		<title>By: Rebellious Arab Girl</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42736</link>
		<dc:creator>Rebellious Arab Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Way to go girl! Wohoooooooooo! I agree with every word you said and I say the same things to people. 

What's wrong with having a nose ring? Or many earings? Bleah.

Honestly, a guy who uses his mother or sisters or aunts or some match maker to find him a bride has no personality or decision making skills. He should be ashamed to be human!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Way to go girl! Wohoooooooooo! I agree with every word you said and I say the same things to people. </p>
<p>What&#8217;s wrong with having a nose ring? Or many earings? Bleah.</p>
<p>Honestly, a guy who uses his mother or sisters or aunts or some match maker to find him a bride has no personality or decision making skills. He should be ashamed to be human!</p>
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		<title>By: Hani obaid</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42735</link>
		<dc:creator>Hani obaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:03:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo tololy, it might have been fun to tell the hag all that in person :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bravo tololy, it might have been fun to tell the hag all that in person :)</p>
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		<title>By: dadan</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42734</link>
		<dc:creator>dadan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thats one good post ... 

i wonder if i can get a hold of that LIST ... 

keep it up</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thats one good post &#8230; </p>
<p>i wonder if i can get a hold of that LIST &#8230; </p>
<p>keep it up</p>
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		<title>By: A.Rehman</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42733</link>
		<dc:creator>A.Rehman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I understand the king did not see his future kingdom, nor the kingdom saw the king. What were the criteria that prompted such a visit? The guy has his nose deeply buried in books , even in the seventies most of the guys I know in Jordan got the green light to go and ask for her hand from the concerned kingdoms respectively.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand the king did not see his future kingdom, nor the kingdom saw the king. What were the criteria that prompted such a visit? The guy has his nose deeply buried in books , even in the seventies most of the guys I know in Jordan got the green light to go and ask for her hand from the concerned kingdoms respectively.</p>
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		<title>By: Farah</title>
		<link>http://www.tololy.com/2008/03/15/rejecting-the-king/#comment-42732</link>
		<dc:creator>Farah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Bravo. I can't believe this is still practised to this very day.</description>
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