Comments on: The Irony http://www.tololy.com/2008/05/06/the-irony/ Tag free. No labels. Fri, 08 Aug 2008 00:03:31 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Pat http://www.tololy.com/2008/05/06/the-irony/#comment-51393 Pat Wed, 07 May 2008 20:05:07 +0000 http://www.tololy.com/?p=1083#comment-51393 D.M., the language in the penal code articles was changed after the 2000 march and petition so that now, at least in theory, everyone can kill for supposed honor.  This was Parliament's way of sticking it to the activists, who wanted Article 340 repealed, not made applicable to twice as many people.  Guess it backfired. Tololy, good points.  Also, across time and geography, females just haven't been anywhere near as physically violent as men.  So the laws still disproportionately favor men, even if they were applied evenly to both sexes.   D.M., the language in the penal code articles was changed after the 2000 march and petition so that now, at least in theory, everyone can kill for supposed honor.  This was Parliament’s way of sticking it to the activists, who wanted Article 340 repealed, not made applicable to twice as many people.  Guess it backfired.
Tololy, good points.  Also, across time and geography, females just haven’t been anywhere near as physically violent as men.  So the laws still disproportionately favor men, even if they were applied evenly to both sexes.
 

]]> By: Tololy http://www.tololy.com/2008/05/06/the-irony/#comment-51267 Tololy Wed, 07 May 2008 08:58:35 +0000 http://www.tololy.com/?p=1083#comment-51267 <p>Women's organizations worked hard to get the law to equally excuse women for crimes of honor, and the law was changed to reflect that. However, the reality of the situation says otherwise. I ask you, if a woman kills her husband to protect "honor," would anyone believe her? Probably not, because "honor" in this society is pretty much exclusive to men and they are its traditional protectors. Honor has to do with the female body (more with the hymen/vagina than anything else), therefore a woman killing a man to protect her family's honor will not be taken seriously.</p> <p> </p> <p>Pat, you're right. I missed that, thanks for the hint!</p> Women’s organizations worked hard to get the law to equally excuse women for crimes of honor, and the law was changed to reflect that. However, the reality of the situation says otherwise. I ask you, if a woman kills her husband to protect “honor,” would anyone believe her? Probably not, because “honor” in this society is pretty much exclusive to men and they are its traditional protectors. Honor has to do with the female body (more with the hymen/vagina than anything else), therefore a woman killing a man to protect her family’s honor will not be taken seriously.

 

Pat, you’re right. I missed that, thanks for the hint!

]]> By: Pat http://www.tololy.com/2008/05/06/the-irony/#comment-50984 Pat Tue, 06 May 2008 23:05:16 +0000 http://www.tololy.com/?p=1083#comment-50984 You are right, of course.  However, it is usually Article 98 that gets killers off the hook. You are right, of course.  However, it is usually Article 98 that gets killers off the hook.

]]> By: Devil''s Mind http://www.tololy.com/2008/05/06/the-irony/#comment-50902 Devil''s Mind Tue, 06 May 2008 20:52:47 +0000 http://www.tololy.com/?p=1083#comment-50902 I don't have a copy of the Jordanian Law, but as far as I know, the law doesn't mention men only, honor killings can get reduced penalties, even if a woman kills her husband. I don’t have a copy of the Jordanian Law, but as far as I know, the law doesn’t mention men only, honor killings can get reduced penalties, even if a woman kills her husband.

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